ATAR Estimate

[Rus-Chick]

Please help my twin sister!!! She's dying and crying the whole afternoon because of the shitty internal ranks. Can someone please estimate her ATAR?
Aim ATAR = 70
She's doing high scale subjects but it was also the reason she screwed up considering we only been at Aus for approx 5 yrs.

Biology rank 39 / 45 (A bit of gap in terms of marks between top rankers and bottom rankers)
Chemistry rank 23 / 28 (Smart Cohorts)
Business Studies 11 / 34 (A bit of gap in terms of marks between top rankers and bottom rankers)
Maths Adv 28 / 32 (Smart Cohorts)
ESL 3/9 (Class average for trials was above 2010 HSC average mark, 70ish)

School rank - 110 - 115 (approximation)

Assuming she gets Band 4 (or Band 3) for everything except ESL where she is positive she will get at least Band 4 or even possibly a Band 6, what ATAR will she get????
Please give a realistic estimation as i dont want her to be too excited and found out she gets low ATAR at the end.

[khorne]

Please help my twin sister!!! She's dying and crying the whole afternoon because of the shitty internal ranks. Can someone please estimate her ATAR?
Aim ATAR = 70
She's doing high scale subjects but it was also the reason she screwed up considering we only been at Aus for approx 5 yrs.

Biology rank 39 / 45 (A bit of gap in terms of marks between top rankers and bottom rankers)
Chemistry rank 23 / 28 (Smart Cohorts)
Business Studies 11 / 34 (A bit of gap in terms of marks between top rankers and bottom rankers)
Maths Adv 28 / 32 (Smart Cohorts)
ESL 3/9 (Class average for trials was above 2010 HSC average mark, 70ish)

School rank - 110 - 115 (approximation)

Assuming she gets Band 4 (or Band 3) for everything except ESL where she is positive she will get at least Band 4 or even possibly a Band 6, what ATAR will she get????
Please give a realistic estimation as i dont want her to be too excited and found out she gets low ATAR at the end.

60s

[Rus-Chick]

60s

Really??? So with those ranks ATAR 70 is impossible!!

[aimeme]

60s

Wouldn't you also need to take into account what school she goes to since they also scale marks depending on your school?

[michaeljennings]

Wouldn't you also need to take into account what school she goes to since they also scale marks depending on your school?

They dont scale marks depending on your school. They align your internal marks depending on how well your cohort does in the HSC (external) exams. And in any case the lady mentioned her sisters school rank was 100ish

[Rus-Chick]

Wouldn't you also need to take into account what school she goes to since they also scale marks depending on your school?

As i mentioned school rank 110 - 115.

[Rus-Chick]

They dont scale marks depending on your school. They align your internal marks depending on how well your cohort does in the HSC (external) exams. And in any case the lady mentioned her sisters school rank was 100ish

What are u thoughts on my twin sister's ATAR???

[michaeljennings]

What are u thoughts on my twin sister's ATAR???

Not sure sorry, its hard to estimate an atar for a person who has ranks close to the bottom of their cohort because no one can really tell how bad they are. Getting an atar of 70 definitely isnt impossible though for her.

[Rus-Chick]

Not sure sorry, its hard to estimate an atar for a person who has ranks close to the bottom of their cohort because no one can really tell how bad they are. Getting an atar of 70 definitely isnt impossible though for her.

Thanks hopefully she gets a bit better when she heard about this. BTW when you said "Getting an atar of 70 definitely isnt impossible though for her", what are the minimum requires she need to make "impossible" to "possible"???

[michaeljennings]

Thanks hopefully she gets a bit better when she heard about this. BTW when you said "Getting an atar of 70 definitely isnt impossible though for her", what are the minimum requires she need to make "impossible" to "possible"???

Well its not impossible to begin with so I dont really understand what youre asking. You shouldnt worry too much either about 'minimum requirements' because she has finished her HSC and there isnt anything more she can do about it. She'll just have to wait until she gets her atar back. Try keep her mind off it or something, go out with her, see a movie or something. Movies are good for when youve got stuff on your mind they let you escape.

[yc6]

Please help my twin sister!!! She's dying and crying the whole afternoon because of the shitty internal ranks. Can someone please estimate her ATAR?
Aim ATAR = 70
She's doing high scale subjects but it was also the reason she screwed up considering we only been at Aus for approx 5 yrs.

Biology rank 39 / 45 (A bit of gap in terms of marks between top rankers and bottom rankers)
Chemistry rank 23 / 28 (Smart Cohorts)
Business Studies 11 / 34 (A bit of gap in terms of marks between top rankers and bottom rankers)
Maths Adv 28 / 32 (Smart Cohorts)
ESL 3/9 (Class average for trials was above 2010 HSC average mark, 70ish)

School rank - 110 - 115 (approximation)

Assuming she gets Band 4 (or Band 3) for everything except ESL where she is positive she will get at least Band 4 or even possibly a Band 6, what ATAR will she get????
Please give a realistic estimation as i dont want her to be too excited and found out she gets low ATAR at the end.

Wow thats pretty bad

[Rus-Chick]

Wow thats pretty bad

I know it is bad as it was the reason my sis were so disappointed about the whole yesterday afternoon. But considering all her subject are highly scaled what are the possibility of getting ATAR of 70??? Any idea???

[Bobbo1]

Sorry hard to guesstimate, but gonna have a stab at around 65-72

[BadMeetsEvil]

around 70

[Rus-Chick]

around 70

So with those low ranks, she basically got helped by high scale subjects.....?

[Rus-Chick]

Sorry hard to guesstimate, but gonna have a stab at around 65-72

Generally speaking can one Band 6 (or Band5) in any of those subject help her get at least 70 ATAR ???

[enoilgam]

I reakon 70 is possible, but 60's is more likely. A band 6 would really help her to get over 70.

[LoveHateSchool]

The school rank is good, the ranks are bad (except business is very decent and ESL decent), I got confused about what bands you were saying you'd think she get externally.

Anyway, she will most likely end up with an ATAR in the 60s. 70 is possible, but the probability is low.

[Rus-Chick]

The school rank is good, the ranks are bad (except business is very decent and ESL decent), I got confused about what bands you were saying you'd think she get externally.

Anyway, she will most likely end up with an ATAR in the 60s. 70 is possible, but the probability is low.

What i mean, assuming she gets Band 4+ for every subjects (including scaling), will it be possible for her to get ATAR 70 with low ranks???

[Isho]

I think she'll get in the 60s, but 70 is not impossible. It's definitely achievable, given that she did good in the HSC exams.

[b00m]

probably high 60s. However, 70 is not impossible

[Rus-Chick]

Anyone else?????
BTW is it true that even u get high marks will still be scaled down because of the shitty marks????

[Rus-Chick]

Sorry 'Ranks' not 'Marks'

[jamesfirst]

60s

[D94]

65-68.