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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    If you represent the hexagon's vertices as points on a plane and do lots of coordinate geometry, you obtain the following expression for the angle:



    And if you type that into a calculator, it does indeed give 80o. I don't know how to simplify it manually though.
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    'An art, which has an aim to achieve the beauty, is called a philosophy or in the absolute sense it is named wisdom.'- Al Farabi

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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Okay worked out the hexagon Q.

    HINT: Construct AC and it follows that angle BAC = angle BCA = 30 degrees (isosceles triangle). Work from there and focus purely on ABCP.
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    First part of this question is a 3U induction if you replace the word complex with real .

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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by seanieg89 View Post
    First part of this question is a 3U induction if you replace the word complex with real .

    http://community.boredofstudies.org/...d.php?t=292775
    When you define u' does it mean this:



    If it means this then I will have a go at the question first thing tomorrow.
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Yep, exactly. The question itself is a pretty standard induction...but it raises other interesting questions about this construction.
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Just going to check my step 1 here to see if I actually understand the question, Ill do the rest tomorrow too tired right now lol





    Correct or way off?
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sy123 View Post
    Just going to check my step 1 here to see if I actually understand the question, Ill do the rest tomorrow too tired right now lol





    Correct or way off?
    Yep, notation is a little funky but the idea is write, a constant sequence will get killed straight away by the operator '. Compare this to the behaviour of a constant function being differentiated .
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sy123 View Post
    Just going to check my step 1 here to see if I actually understand the question, Ill do the rest tomorrow too tired right now lol





    Correct or way off?
    Yep, notation is a little funky but the idea is right, a constant sequence will get killed straight away by the operator '. Compare this to the behaviour of a constant function being differentiated .
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by seanieg89 View Post
    Yep, notation is a little funky but the idea is write, a constant sequence will get killed straight away by the operator '. Compare this to the behaviour of a constant function being differentiated .
    Alright nice I will see if I can complete this tomorrow

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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sy123 View Post
    Alright nice I will see if I can complete this tomorrow

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    Honestly not that difficult, maybe think about how you would try to prove the analogue of this theorem for functions: f is killed by taking finitely many derivatives if and only if f is a polynomial . Because differentiation is more familiar this should be quite easy, then try to mimic this approach for the less familiar operation going on here.
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Progress

    Thats just my progress on Step 3, but I keep running into that barrier, I want to be able to prove that


    But I cant because I just end up with:



    Am I missing something here?
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Hint: polynomial degree. Gtg now but will look closer at your work later if you don't get it yet.
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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by eskimogenius View Post
    A point P is marked inside a regular hexagon ABCDEF so that angleBAP=angleDCP=50deg. Find angle ABP.

    GL.

    PS. Answer is 80deg.
    Fwark, this is a good question.

    Just did it using complex numbers.

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    Re: HSC 2012 Marathon :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sy123 View Post
    Another question I made up:





    Use the results from the previous question
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