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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    i think an equivalent analogy is going to a designer clothing shop, and buying a nice outfit that you heard is in fashion. However, when you buy it, get home and wear it, you still look bad. You therefore proceed to sue the store. In other words, its blatantly ridiculous

    The girl in question is essentially blaming the school for the fact that she did not do well. Its her fault and she just can't take responsibility for it.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    if you read the magazine it is quite clear that she is a fuck up and has been unfortunate as well. she's obviously just being taken for a ride by her legal counsel

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Galapagos View Post
    Lol, tell that to all those Asian parents who move suburbs so they can be eligible to send their kid to James Ruse, and then from there into Law/Medical school!

    Parents of top private school kids = pay lotsa money = expect kid to get 99 ATAR.

    But yeah, you can't really relate your school to that of the private schools in the top 500 + if yours doesn't even get a rank below 600. YOUR school might not be academically focused (in fact it sounds more religious than your typical private school), but most of them tend to be.
    1. Location has no relevance on acceptance.
    2. Doesn't ensure Law/Medical school.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    This is so stupid. I just can't even.

    But heh, wannabe lawyer tries to sue world for problems. At least she'll get the thrill of a court case.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by funkshen View Post
    of course there is an agreement between the contracting parties lentern, its a fucking business. and like many private businesses dealing with intangibles and indirect outcomes, the terms of the contract obligate the delivery of a product/program (i.e. both education and extracurricular), not the delivery of a certain outcome (i.e. HSC results). the contracting parties agree to deliver a quality of education (perhaps higher) that increases the likelihood of better outcomes, but do not agree on the outcome
    I have not once suggested the school should be liable for a breach of contract based upon HSC results.

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty44 View Post
    No im not suggesting that. I'm suggesting that the education can almost be considered equal at both (not about talking selective) and the 'day care' is just an extra at private (usually). The reason i say the education is almost the same because teachers at private schools aren't necessarily better its just that at orivate schools the stricter rules allow for a better learning environment.
    That is one of the most crass oversimplifications of the school system I have ever heard.

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotence View Post
    1. Location has no relevance on acceptance.
    2. Doesn't ensure Law/Medical school.
    1. I thought you had to be within a certain proximity for most of them? Or is that a public selective school thing?
    2. I am aware, was just pointing out the mentality of some parents.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by pony_magician View Post
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    Must have been some really fucking good chocolate fortune cookies. -_-

    (Omg we should sue the school too because they directly stopped this totally feasible business from running and therefore we missed out on fucking good chocolate fortune cookies!)
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Galapagos View Post
    1. I thought you had to be within a certain proximity for most of them? Or is that a public selective school thing?
    2. I am aware, was just pointing out the mentality of some parents.
    Your location doesn't matter in selective schools admission. Even if you live right across the road from the school but get mark lower than the cut off, you still won't be accepted (for that year).
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by twinklegal19 View Post
    Your location doesn't matter in selective schools admission. Even if you live right across the road from the school but get mark lower than the cut off, you still won't be accepted (for that year).
    Oh yeah, I get that much. But I once read an article about house prices increasing in a particular area because all the families wanted to move in so they could send their kids to a certain school?
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lentern View Post
    The individual suing might have little cause to do so but it does raise the bigger question about the extent to which a school is accountable for the quality of education it provides. Particularly at a private school you essential are entering into an agreement to pay more money and in exchange the kid will get an education of a higher quality than that available within the public school system. Would a private school student(or their family) for example have grounds to sue if the school was teaching from outdated materials, say an English class that taught traditional grammar instead of functional grammar?
    It was a Grammar school. She was provided the facilities, resources, and opportunities I'm sure (as an ex-student at a Grammar school I feel qualified to say that). She obviously squandered these opportunities. She doesn't deserve compensation.

    Lawsuits are ridiculous. It gives individuals permission to throw the blame to someone who is not accountable.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilist View Post
    It was a Grammar school. She was provided the facilities, resources, and opportunities I'm sure (as an ex-student at a Grammar school I feel qualified to say that). She obviously squandered these opportunities. She doesn't deserve compensation.

    Lawsuits are ridiculous. It gives individuals permission to throw the blame to someone who is not accountable.
    Don't quote me if you're going to completely disregard what I wrote.

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Galapagos View Post
    Oh yeah, I get that much. But I once read an article about house prices increasing in a particular area because all the families wanted to move in so they could send their kids to a certain school?
    Oh, well it's unlikely they were talking about NSW selective schools. If my memory serves me correctly, perhaps VIC has a different system I *think*.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lentern View Post
    It pretty much is, but please enlighten me, I make no secret of the fact I did fuck all work in contract law.
    I take your point, if there was a cause of action in contract then she would have to be arguing that there is some sort of implied term to the effect of a good score, though of course schools make no explicit guarantees on this point. However I got the impression that she is alleging that Geelong Grammar detrimentally effected her education and thus she is perhaps claiming that she they were contractually obligated not to cause harm to her intellectual prospects, this type of promise is more realistic. Either way I think it raises the issue of the commodification of education. Paying fee's plus boarding is pretty substantial consideration for a promise to help your kid get a good mark, I would want returns.

    I think it is really sad if this is what the Australian education system is coming to. Maybe if an education is becoming a contract whereby you can pay for the success of your child, our society will finally begin to understand the value of an egalitarian education system in which government schools have primacy and are not critically underfunded.

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    For someone aspiring to be a lawyer ... she should know that this case will fall through. Yes, the school is providing you a service, but unless you had a contracted agreement where they are guaranteeing you a specific mark the case won't hold. It's ridiculous plus she didn't even do her hsc at that school she did it at tafe. So it makes more sense to sue the tafe, but I'm assuming they were hoping that this wouldnt go to court but to get a settlement outside of court. Since they probably thought the school wouldn't want this to get out but since the case is dumb the school doesn't care, their rep isn't tarnished but her 's is.

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lentern View Post
    Don't quote me if you're going to completely disregard what I wrote.
    I just reread the post and I don't remember why I quoted you.
    “You want, if possible—-and there is no more insane “if possible”—-to ABOLISH SUFFERING. And we? It really seems that WE would rather have it higher and worse than ever. Well-being as you understand it—-that is no goal, that seems to us an END, a state that soon makes man ridiculous and contemptible—-that makes his destruction DESIRABLE.”

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    you may as well sue every sub-par public high school and the entire education system.

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    "I suck at school, mostly because i really couldn't care less.

    i'm that girl who never studies and everyone screams when she gets a %92 percent in latin.

    actually, everyone pretty much screamed when they saw I didn't fail all my tests.

    lol but i intentionally failed french just to show that madamme armstrong can't teach for shit"
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    holy fuck

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    school failed to teach me social skills

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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    discussed this in law class loool
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    lol, even if she gets into law, her reputation is ruined forever. GL getting a job if you ever get into law (she wont get into law)

    this is an excerpt
    I suck at school, mostly because i really couldn't care less.

    i'm that girl who never studies and everyone screams when she gets a %92 percent in latin.

    actually, everyone pretty much screamed when they saw I didn't fail all my tests.

    lol but i intentionally failed french just to show that madamme armstrong can't teach for shit
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    Words cannot describe how glad I am that she's not in Law. I can't imagine spending 5 years stuck in the nearby proximity of this girl.
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    Re: School 'failed to get me into law'

    lol, and she gets in

    sue ALL THE LECTURERS/TUTORS for not getting 100 in everything

    she seems the type to complain incessantly instead of taking responsibility for her actions.
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