Why I burned my 'Proof of Aboriginality'

[Memento-mori]

You don't think these scholarship programs were in part formulated on the basis of government and academic research?

It's irrelevant what reserach formed these scholarships and bursuries. I do think they are a good idea, but only for the individual Say, a son gets a $10,000 p.a scholarship at Sydney University to do law. He doesn't have to pay board, for food, textbooks, etc. But then Sydney University publish their undergraduate booklet, with that son's face in it, saying how much he ''benefitted'' from it, people read, think the uni is great, and go there. and yet, once again, Aboriginal people are portrayed as always needing the White Man's help, even though they are only solving a very tiny fraction of the problem. Universities and high schools CAN afford it, usually by donations. Closing the gap will take time and committment, in all sectors, and health is a massive one, and back to the topic, simply being Aboriginal, doesn't get you anywhere in that regards. You can't simply chuck money at it. You need to make a committment, which Australian governments and the people tend to suck at.

[soloooooo]

It's irrelevant what reserach formed these scholarships and bursuries. I do think they are a good idea, but only for the individual Say, a son gets a $10,000 p.a scholarship at Sydney University to do law. He doesn't have to pay board, for food, textbooks, etc. But then Sydney University publish their undergraduate booklet, with that son's face in it, saying how much he ''benefitted'' from it, people read, think the uni is great, and go there. and yet, once again, Aboriginal people are portrayed as always needing the White Man's help, even though they are only solving a very tiny fraction of the problem. Universities and high schools CAN afford it, usually by donations. Closing the gap will take time and committment, in all sectors, and health is a massive one, and back to the topic, simply being Aboriginal, doesn't get you anywhere in that regards. You can't simply chuck money at it. You need to make a committment, which Australian governments and the people tend to suck at.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Any Indigenous person that wants to help themselves is offered more than enough government assistance to do so. Those who don't want to help themselves cannot be saved.

[Memento-mori]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Any Indigenous person that wants to help themselves is offered more than enough government assistance to do so. Those who don't want to help themselves cannot be saved.

For adults, I can believe that. But children, if they are ill, have to be helped, no matter what the parents or any one in the community say.

[soloooooo]

For adults, I can believe that. But children, if they are ill, have to be helped, no matter what the parents or any one in the community say.

I think you will find that those children that were part of the 'stolen' generation were helped effectively and the program should be continued in some form. If parents cannot look after their children then the state must take them for the long term good of the children.

[Lentern]

It's irrelevant what reserach formed these scholarships and bursuries. I do think they are a good idea, but only for the individual Say, a son gets a $10,000 p.a scholarship at Sydney University to do law. He doesn't have to pay board, for food, textbooks, etc. But then Sydney University publish their undergraduate booklet, with that son's face in it, saying how much he ''benefitted'' from it, people read, think the uni is great, and go there. and yet, once again, Aboriginal people are portrayed as always needing the White Man's help, even though they are only solving a very tiny fraction of the problem. Universities and high schools CAN afford it, usually by donations. Closing the gap will take time and committment, in all sectors, and health is a massive one, and back to the topic, simply being Aboriginal, doesn't get you anywhere in that regards. You can't simply chuck money at it. You need to make a committment, which Australian governments and the people tend to suck at.

It's completely relevant because a moment ago you suggested these programs were not developed on the basis of well founded research and policy development. And you pretty much do it again here with your stupid "they just throw money at the problem" line, as though public servants and academics haven't spent enormous time formulating closing the gap programs precisely because the research suggests that they are the most effective means.

[fortyfortyforty]

What research? Where else have significant gaps been closed?

[Lentern]

What research? Where else have significant gaps been closed?

Stuff like this http://www.aihw.gov.au/closingthegap...sadvantage.pdf

[Blastus]

Are you honestly saying that you don't think there has been, and there is continuing, substantial research and strategic policy development in "closing the gap" policies?

I love seeing that your equivocation has not been dulled