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    Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    Did the country get dumber or did UNSW decide to jettison all their good proffesors? Is there a logical explanation? The course is commerce/science (adv maths)

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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    dumber

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    The Atar is not an indication of how smart the Uni is .... Its popularity. Your misinformed.
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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    No im afraid, you're misinformed.

    The actual population "has" gone dumber by 32% do some research.

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    Source please.
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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    ATAR cut-offs are determined by supply and demand.

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    If 100 people wanted to do say finance, then there is more competition and the Atar is increased to differentiate the people.

    If 10 people wanted to do finance then the Atar is lower because there's less competition.

    Therefore , less competition = easier to get in.
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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerdasdasd View Post
    If 100 people wanted to do say finance, then there is more competition and the Atar is increased to differentiate the people.

    If 10 people wanted to do finance then the Atar is lower because there's less competition.

    Therefore , less competition = easier to get in.
    This!
    If there are 50 positions in the course and 100 people apply
    Then the atar cutoff will probably be around the 50th person.

    You can get in a course with an atar cutoff of 90 with a 70 atar (it's unlikely but it's possibly)
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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    If the drop was between 2011 and 2012 cut off then it was likely because of the government not restricting the amount of sponsored places at unis anymore.
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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    Cuts off gone lower may be because there is a less in demand. Unlike meddy degrees you will rarely see those degrees lowered
    Quote Originally Posted by trowla17 View Post
    Did the country get dumber or did UNSW decide to jettison all their good proffesors? Is there a logical explanation? The course is commerce/science (adv maths)

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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafy View Post
    ATAR cut-offs are determined by supply and demand.
    This.

    Fun fact: At UTS, excluding B.IT and B.Accounting (which have additional criteria) and B.Laws , the single degree with the highest ATAR is B.Design in Fashion and Textiles. Usually those who think ''oh no the ATAR is dropping look how dumb everything is becoming'' usually have very outdated ideas on education. They think all the ''worthwhile'' courses should have extremely high enter marks, and are the kinds of people who thrive on exclusivity. I think the Fashion and Textiles is great proof that ATAR is primarily based on demand- that's not saying that the design courses offered by UTS are easy (I personally love design), but it's meaningless.

    96.4 is still high, imo.

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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Memento-mori View Post
    Fun fact: At UTS, excluding B.IT and B.Accounting (which have additional criteria) and B.Laws , the single degree with the highest ATAR is B.Design in Fashion and Textiles.
    I did know that, not sure why you are including BIT as a high atar course though. It's still probably a notable course but i don't think it should be mentioned alongside Law, fashion and textiles, B Acc etc. Despite the 90+ to be competitive suggestion majority of the BIT (2012) students i've met got ATAR's in the mid 80s. I kind of regret not applying for it even though the course im in is a lot more relevant to what i want to get into.
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    Re: Why did the ATAR cut-off drop from 98.15 to 96.4?

    Quote Originally Posted by brent012 View Post
    If the drop was between 2011 and 2012 cut off then it was likely because of the government not restricting the amount of sponsored places at unis anymore.
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