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  1. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    That goes against basic logic. If someone is not guilty of an offence, they should not be locked up. Do you dispute this? Guilt is more than a guilty act, it is a guilty conscience. As I have said a number of times now, and which you seem to either fail to grasp or have no answer to, moral...
  2. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    1. They are experts. They are not fooled easily. 2. More to the point, you didn't answer my question, which is fundamental to the whole issue. I asked whether this was the best way to test whether someone has a mental illness. If practicing psychologists and psychiatric experts are no good...
  3. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    Actually it is very hard to prove. To show a disease of the mind, you would need psychological evidence from professionals to stand any hope of succeeding. That is, expert testimony from specialists in mental illness. And that is surely the most reliable way to discern the truth of their...
  4. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    Um, who ever said we didn't think he should be in gaol? Providing someone with legal representation and giving them a fair trial does not in any way mean approving of guilty people running free. The same reason you deserve a defence if you were charged with anything. You are innocent until...
  5. MoonlightSonata

    The Democrats - thanks for the memories?

    They just need a new PR spokesman. "Everything is under control!"
  6. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    1. For your information, the two "left-wing" law students you say are "invading" are two of the oldest members of this sub-forum. 2. No "useless law jargon" was posted. 3. The discussions on the current law of police investigative powers are on topic and worthy of discussion. Another telegraph...
  7. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    Actually, if you read the case law, improperly or illegally obtained evidence, more often than not, is admitted. The court employs a variety of tests and considerations for coming to an appropriate balance, depending on the nature of the crime, the gravity of the breach of rules, the...
  8. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    It's not about reprimanding a police officer. It's about the reliability of the evidence. If the police have done something to put the evidence in serious doubt, then of course there is going to be a problem with admitting it. If the police got a confession out of you by threatening to beat up...
  9. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    The whole point is that you don't know whether they're guilty or not until after the trial! Again, the whole criminal justice system is based on the notion of innocent until proven guilty. You can't know someone is guilty until after the trial. I'm afraid that it is a lot more complicated than...
  10. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    You seem to disapprove of people having legal representation and having a fair trial. That is quite alarming, since you are in training to become a police officer. Utterly ridiculous. You would have to apply the same rule to crown prosecutors. "No-one who has ever prosecuted a criminal should...
  11. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    What do you mean "there's fault"?
  12. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    Alleged criminals. The moment you start denying rights to people who are not proven guilty by a court is the moment you erode the most fundamental pillar of our criminal justice system: innocent until proven guilty.
  13. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    Um, it's common sense that it is legislated. Same goes for exclusion of evidence. Unless you don't like accountability, in which case you're probably in the wrong profession. Or unless you don't like the rule of law, in which case you're not only in the wrong profession, but in the wrong country.
  14. MoonlightSonata

    8 Year Old Girl Murdered

    How did your litigation exam go? ;) (And did you do the search warrant question in Part 2, or the entrapment question?)
  15. MoonlightSonata

    Only in the Netherlands ...

    There's nothing wrong with the Dutch :mad1: and it's pretty naive to generalise like that; it's one wacky party. A lot of liberal democratic countries have far-out parties of a similar ridiculous nature that will never, ever see the light of Parliament.
  16. MoonlightSonata

    general UNSW chit-chat

    Goddamn that sport association fee. I wonder if there is anyway I can get rid of it...
  17. MoonlightSonata

    general UNSW chit-chat

    That's quite misguided. Universities are in fact very underfunded. The new law building had to be financed through a comprehensive fundraising and investment scheme. The university was not simply bursting with extra revenue that it decided to splash it out on new buildings. As for it not being...
  18. MoonlightSonata

    general UNSW chit-chat

    People don't go to uni to play sport, era. People choose to attend university to educate them in a suitable area for their career. And this isn't high school -- by this stage in people's lives if they want to play sport they can do it of their own expenses, join their own private teams and...
  19. MoonlightSonata

    general UNSW chit-chat

    Hell yes, it's completely unfair. One thing we agree on!
  20. MoonlightSonata

    Senate Committees - Controlling the Agenda

    That contradicts the first news article in this thread..?
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