A Dearth of Funding for Law Schools. (1 Viewer)

[Frigid]

Please read over this ALSA flyer regards the lack of funding for law schools and discuss the issues. law students are underappreciated, unloved and underfunded

 

[doe]

Please read over this ALSA flyer regards the lack of funding for law schools and discuss the issues. law students are underappreciated, unloved and underfunded

its not just law students

try completing a compsci unit with 250 students enrolled when theres only 70 uni computers available.

 

[Frigid]

its not just law students

try completing a compsci unit with 250 students enrolled when theres only 70 uni computers available.

law students are the most underfunded group. besides, almost everyone has a computer at home. two new law school buildings, moot courts, PLT seminars, yearly subscriptions and AustLII don't come free.

 

[Phanatical]

LAW students are underfunded and unappreciated?? Fuck, that's like a Kings School student complaining that one of their cricket fields have slightly brown grass.

 

[Xayma]

A few things:

The time for a HECS place is 7 years.
FEE-HELP for full fee paying courses, does not attract interest, but is indexed and a 20% loan fee is to be payed back. And is payed back in a similar way to HECS.

Also don't vet science students pay the highest Full-Fee rate?

But they are law students so of course you can trust them

 

[Frigid]

LAW students are underfunded and unappreciated?? Fuck, that's like a Kings School student complaining that one of their cricket fields have slightly brown grass.

i'm not going to argue via a crude and mistaken analogy. i refer you to these tables...

Funding Cluster - Commonwealth contribution
Law - $1,472
Accounting, administration, economics, commerce - $2,420
Humanities - $4,078
Mathematics, statistics - $4,817
Behavioural science, social studies - $6,475
Computing, built environment, health - $7,212
Foreign languages, visual and performing arts - $8,869
Engineering, science, surveying - $12,003
Dentistry, medicine, veterinary science - $15,047
Agriculture - $15,996
Education - $7,116
Nursing - $9,511

Student contribution - Student contribution range (post-2005 students) - Student contribution range (pre-2005 HECS students)

Band 3
(law, dentistry, medicine, veterinary science) $0 – $8,018, $0 – $6,414
Band 2
(accounting, administration, economics, commerce, mathematics, statistics, computing, built environment, health, engineering, science, surveying, agriculture) $0 – $6,849, $0 – $5,479
Band 1
(humanities, behavioural science, social studies, foreign languages, visual and performing arts) $0 – $4,808, $0 – $3,847
National priorities
(education, nursing) $0 – $3,847, $0 – $3,847

so a musician like yourself is actually getting more Commonwealth funding ($7k more per student per year), and you pay for lower proportion of your degree (you pay 35% whereas law students pay 85%). so shut the fuck up since you're obviously ignorant of the issue. not every law student is going end up in a super-rich commercial-firm. some of us will end up working for very average/little pay, but in jobs which provide a service to the community eg. government solicitors office, community legal centres, regional areas.

 

[Frigid]

The time for a HECS place is 7 years.
FEE-HELP for full fee paying courses, does not attract interest, but is indexed and a 20% loan fee is to be payed back. And is payed back in a similar way to HECS.

while full-fee places may improve access to education, entrance into university should be based on merit, not monetary qualifications.

besides, both of you do not look at the issue objectively, but rather just throw your anti-law student bias. we're not a bunch of arrogant elitists - we've got the same issues as other university students; but it is obvious to me that we're the most disadvantaged group.

 

[santaslayer]

That was an issue raised in the law society some while ago...don't know what happened to it after...

 

[Frigid]

That was an issue raised in the law society some while ago...don't know what happened to it after...

nothing. because obviously the rest of the society thinks that it costs next to nothing to teach law, just 'chalk and talk', and since we're all gonna be super-rich commercial lawyers, we can live with less resources and higher costs.

 

[Xayma]

while full-fee places may improve access to education, entrance into university should be based on merit, not monetary qualifications.

besides, both of you do not look at the issue objectively, but rather just throw your anti-law student bias. we're not a bunch of arrogant elitists - we've got the same issues as other university students; but it is obvious to me that we're the most disadvantaged group.

I wasn't arguing the use of full-fee paying places more incorrect information on there.

It does seem unfair, however, that they pay such a large percentage. I was looking at it quite objectively just pointing out the errors in it. With the last comment in jest at the obvious subjective nature of the article and some of the incorrect information in it