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http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/A-prisoner-all-her-life-this-girl-bears-the-scars/2005/05/06/1115092692388.html

A prisoner all her life, this girl bears the scars
By Lee Glendinning and Joseph Kerr
May 7, 2005

Three-year-old Naomi Leong was born into detention and has known no other life but still asks her mother when they are going home. She started off warm and engaging but became increasingly disconnected as she grew. Now she is listless, will not play with other children and wants only constant nursing by her mother.

"Every time she sees me upset and feeling sad she bangs her head against the wall," her 31-year-old Malaysian mother, Virginia Leong, told the Herald from Villawood Detention Centre yesterday. "But there's nowhere I can hide. I am unstable and screaming all the time. I cannot help it."

Of the 74 child detainees in Australia, Naomi has been in detention longer than any of them.

Ms Leong says she lives only for her daughter, and has told a psychiatrist she is "exhausting" herself trying to look happy even though she "feels dead".

"She seems very weird," she said yesterday of her daughter. "She is never playing around children her own age and she will never talk much, but she always says to me, 'When can we go home?' and I say we can't and she says, 'No, let's go go home?' What can I say to that?"

Psychiatrists have said detention is indelibly damaging Naomi. According to one psychiatrist's report obtained by the Herald, Ms Leong was said to be apparently suffering severe major depression and psychotic features.

"She and Naomi are both potentially at risk of their safety if this condition is allowed to continue without adequate treatment, as it has been so far," said Michael Dudley. He also recommended removing Ms Leong and Naomi to a psychiatric unit.

It is understood Ms Leong entered Australia on a valid visa, but overstayed.

She was two months pregnant with Naomi when she was detained for trying to travel to Hong Kong on a false passport.

Naomi's case is just the latest to raise concerns about how immigration authorities are managing detainees' mental health. A Federal Court judge this week said the Government had failed in its duty of care to two long-term Iranian detainees who are now in a psychiatric hospital. The inquiry into Cornelia Rau's detention has also been widened to include 33 other people wrongly detained.

AN Immigration Department spokesman said Naomi was not an Australian citizen and that Ms Leong was free to leave Australia.

So disturbing has been Naomi's behaviour - she has stopped eating and drinks only juice - that a psychiatrist asked the department in March to let her visit a children's play group centre for two hours a week.

Ms Leong said: "My brain has already been destroyed but I am trying to stop hers from being destroyed. Her life is so unfair."

 The Prime Minister has apologised for the wrongful deportation of Australian Vivian Alvarez to the Philippines. Ms Alvarez, who went missing in 2001, has a nine-year-old son in foster care in Brisbane.

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What do you guys think?

There's been a lot on the news about refugees, asylum seekers that I think a lot of people have become desenstised to the issue. I for one have been.

But then i saw this article and was shocked at it. Most people seem to think ok, this person's an asylum seeker, or is refugee and has tried to come into Australia illegally.

Fair enough but do they really deserve these consequences? A friend of mine visted silverwater prison (one which houses people who are low risk, women who have children) and in her words it was like a "motel". So it would seem that even people who have committed low grade crime (don't know the legal term) receive better treatment. My point is these refugee/asylum seekers or those who have stayed in Australia haven't been charged with a crime and yet in some cases they're being treated as though they are.

My concern is for the child in the story. If you go to the above link, there's a photo which accompanies the story. That photo and article is a more poignant reminder of the government's neglect in the psychological health of people in detention centres and in particular children.
 

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I deffinetly agree I feel we have been bombarded with this issue so much we have become desensitised by it. We are bombared with so many statistics etc it doesn't feel real and then you see something else this and it gives a whole face to the issue and it makes me see how there are real people being affected by the policies of our government.
 

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fucking hellll.........

yeah cos we feel sorry for some one lets just open the gates at villawood and let these animals run a muck.

Fucking immigrants.
 

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Sweets said:
I deffinetly agree I feel we have been bombarded with this issue so much we have become desensitised by it. We are bombared with so many statistics etc it doesn't feel real and then you see something else this and it gives a whole face to the issue and it makes me see how there are real people being affected by the policies of our government.
What face? The face of a fairly happy girl in the bathtub? =/
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
By the way... I dun see what's so dramatic about a girl in a bath, with toys around her, seemingly fairly happy...


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Well if you took into account the context of the article, i think the picture is quite saddening. Sure she looks like a normal kid in the bath but the fact that she isolates herself from kids her own age, doesn't eat solids and bangs her head against the wall suggests that the environment she's in is unhealthy for her development.
 

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I heard Michael Dudley speak at a rally and he has done some extensive research on mental health in asylum, he was very interesting indeed. Far from some raving leftie that most people on the conservative side may think, he is extremely intelligent and very well (and rationally) spoken.

I don't understand why these people are seen as threats to society. Why don't they put them in a house with some monitoring (it probably doesn't even need to be very extensive monitoring) and let the mother and daughter live a relatively normal life while they try and figure out what they are going to do with them. Surely this would not really cost any more then it does to detain someone? They could even put them in a share house with another family from detention or something.

Children shouldn't be in jail, that is why they don't let children stay with their parents in jail beyond a certain age.... but I guess we are talking about the children of illegals here, so we shouldn't afford them the same rights that we give fair dinkum Aussie kids I guess?

If you have an interest in the Children in Detention issue, visit www.chilout.org, there is a lot of interesting information.
 

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Sarah said:
Well if you took into account the context of the article, i think the picture is quite saddening. Sure she looks like a normal kid in the bath but the fact that she isolates herself from kids her own age, doesn't eat solids and bangs her head against the wall suggests that the environment she's in is unhealthy for her development.
Yes, and perhaps they should build more of these 'detention communities', they seem like the way to go where most people are happy.

As for that article, it's full of emotional bs and i wouldn't believe everything you read. This guy who the news said was "Keeping sex slaves underneath the floorboards of his house", recently, i know for a fact had a concrete floor :rolleyes:
 

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Ya I don't think what we have going on in the detention centres is right, and I think communal dention centres (where everyone has their own house, they can visit each other, etc).
Is a step in the right direction.

I would also call for their cases to be determined alot faster.
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
What face? The face of a fairly happy girl in the bathtub? =/
NTB, you have a habit of judging solely on external apperances. In the poor uni student thread, you said something like "I can't see anybody wearing shabby clothes, and shabby clothes is usually an indecation of poverty" and now you are saying that the three year old girl is free of psychological problems purely because she is smiling.

Really, it's on the same level as "then give them cake".
 

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