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Well...My concern:

I read some of unis website (UWA n Melb-u) and they say after 6 yrs of med school, we need to do 1 more year of internship. But after that, it is not clear for me...

Can we practice as GP directly after that? *assuming permanent resident and local citizen?
Can we directly go to specialisation after that?
If yes, can we directly go to specialisation without 1 year of that extra internship?

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no.. u become a hospital resident.. u are now a legally registered medical practitioner..
internship= limited registration

to become a GP u need to get into a fellowship program.. then train for between 2-5 yrs
or
u can choose another specialty

No u cant.. in fact most specialty programs require u to have 1 intern and 1 resident yr (usually 2+).. befure u start.

read this: http://community.boredofstudies.org/showthread.php?t=54449
 
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hospital resident = doctor?
medical practitioner = doctor?

What kind of doctor is it? I mean, what is the difference between GP and those hospital resident/medical practitioner?

I am just not clear with Australian system but in Indonesia, after we graduate from 6yrs of undergrad med, we go into internship, adaptation --> GP otherwise we directly go from undergrad med--> specialisation --> internship --> adaptation --> specialist. Is it the same case?

And for specialisation, is it the postgraduate degree or it is not a degree?

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Its training from a college, not a degree. for example, my sister finished med in 2003, worked for 2 yrs as intern/resident, and now is registering with FRACGP to become a gp. She will still work while she studies to become a GP.
 

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VQ said:
hospital resident = doctor?
medical practitioner = doctor?

What kind of doctor is it? I mean, what is the difference between GP and those hospital resident/medical practitioner?

I am just not clear with Australian system but in Indonesia, after we graduate from 6yrs of undergrad med, we go into internship, adaptation --> GP otherwise we directly go from undergrad med--> specialisation --> internship --> adaptation --> specialist. Is it the same case?

And for specialisation, is it the postgraduate degree or it is not a degree?

Thank you for info...
a junior doctor with no qualifications apart from an MBBS - so you have the title of Dr but you don't have an official specialty yet. A GP has an MBBS plus a FRACGP (fellowship of the royal aust. college of GPs) and can set up private practice - as can any other specialist. That's the main difference, interns/residents can't set up private practice but specialists (including GPs) can. This is not to say that specialists can't work soley in hospitals, or that you even have to get a specialty.
 

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VQ said:
hospital resident = doctor?
medical practitioner = doctor?

What kind of doctor is it? I mean, what is the difference between GP and those hospital resident/medical practitioner?

I am just not clear with Australian system but in Indonesia, after we graduate from 6yrs of undergrad med, we go into internship, adaptation --> GP otherwise we directly go from undergrad med--> specialisation --> internship --> adaptation --> specialist. Is it the same case?

And for specialisation, is it the postgraduate degree or it is not a degree?

Thank you for info...
Fellowship = professional diploma that lets you work independently.... given out by Aust. Med. Council (AMC) approved Colleges e.g. Royal Australiasian College of Physician or Surgeons or GPs etc.

Alternatively u can train with the UK eqv. colleges and sit AMC exams to be accredited in Australia.

In Australia, Undergrad Med --> Intern --> Resident yrs (1 or more) --> fellowship training program (3-8 yrs) --> now ure a real specialist with a fellowship not just training. (depending on specialty becomes Anaesthetist, Surgeon, GP, Physician, Pathologist etc)

- everything after intern is paid.
- exams are AUD $2000 - $4000 each. (u do about 3 big exams in a fellowship training)
- Intern, Resident are usually multidisciplinary training yrs

Ok... Medical practitioner is a person that practices medicine and that is the correct term for the profession upon the completion of Undergraduate Medicine.

i dont like to use the term 'doctor' because it is reserved for doctorate holders (e.g. Ph.D, D.Sc) and they usually indicate a higher level of academic achievement in a field (which MBBS-er's and BMed-er's dun realli deserve)

also sounds really pretentious.. although medical practitioners are conferred the title by convention.. u dun always have to use it! :jedi:
 
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Does the med sch u come from affect ur chances of doing specialist training?
 

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tkdwhiz1188 said:
Does the med sch u come from affect ur chances of doing specialist training?
no.... ure motivation, interest and commitment affects ure choice of specialty...

and so do number of training places..

basically its ure performance during ure Post grad yr is how they will allocate places.. like who thinks ure capable etc.
 

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Time line in Australia is generally:

Med school - 5-6 years (undergrad), 4 years (graduate entry)
Internship - 1 year (paid)
PGY2 (resident) - 1-2 years (paid)
Specialty training - anywhere from 3 years (for a FRACP, to enable you to register to be GP) to 5 or 6 years for most other specialties. You have to be admitted to the specific college, e.g. different colleges exist for psychiatry or emergency medicine. Entry is competitive (and sometimes expensive). Training is completed concurrently to working in a hospital and you are paid.
 

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Legolas said:
Specialty training - anywhere from 3 years (for a FRACP, to enable you to register to be GP) to 5 or 6 years for most other specialties.
typo..
FRACGP is GP
Emergency Med is now 7 yrs :sleep:
 

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Emergency medicine is ER in real life :p

Thanks +Po1ntDeXt3r+ for picking up on the typo. A FRACP is for paediatricians.

LottoX, another old Falconian eh? :p
 

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Legolas said:
Thanks +Po1ntDeXt3r+ for picking up on the typo. A FRACP is for paediatricians.
It's wider than that I think.... RACP = Royal Australiasian College of Physicians, which includes paediatricians.
 

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Legolas said:
Emergency medicine is ER in real life :p

Thanks +Po1ntDeXt3r+ for picking up on the typo. A FRACP is for paediatricians.

LottoX, another old Falconian eh? :p
rofl yeah its physicians.. but it think ull easily pick up the lingo...

give it time.. took me 3 yrs to do it :)

congrats on gettin UQ tho.. tis a fine school
 

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