Kurt VS Dr Du VS Ngo and Sons? (1 Viewer)

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I am looking for a tutoring place for mathematics in year 10 so I will be able to get into 3u and possibly 4u maths? However, I have heard both Kurt, Dr Du and Ngo and sons are good. I have some questions about these places.
- What is the difference between them and which one is the best in terms of their content and how they teach?
- Does Ngo and Sons have an entrance test?
- How hard is the Kurt and Dr du entrance test and how do I do well in it?
Thanks!
 

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More or less the same. I’m not too sure about Kurt but Ngo is a safe option if ur in a high enough class. I’ve heard Dr Du is only good if in his top class. Idk. Tutoring is kinda overrated. As long as you understand what’s being taught and regularly revise it should be all the same.
 

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More or less the same. I’m not too sure about Kurt but Ngo is a safe option if ur in a high enough class. I’ve heard Dr Du is only good if in his top class. Idk. Tutoring is kinda overrated. As long as you understand what’s being taught and regularly revise it should be all the same.
Thanks for the reply! What would a high class in Ngo be?
 

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Hi!
I am looking for a tutoring place for mathematics in year 10 so I will be able to get into 3u and possibly 4u maths? However, I have heard both Kurt, Dr Du and Ngo and sons are good. I have some questions about these places.
- What is the difference between them and which one is the best in terms of their content and how they teach?
- Does Ngo and Sons have an entrance test?
- How hard is the Kurt and Dr du entrance test and how do I do well in it?
Thanks!
kurt is apparantly 600/term (depends on amt of lessons and i'm pretty sure they're 2h lessons), is in epping, teaches topics then gives homework and topic tests, and if you fail topic tests (under 50%) or don't do hw, you get detentions which are pretty long (3h+ i think) where you do the last 3 topic tests. i'm pretty sure if you're missing content they'll assign a priv tutor until you're up to pace

du gets progressively more expensive the later you go (but lessons get longer), is in hurstville/burwood. they introduce topics with mathematical proof, give weekly topic tests and hw(which is graded). imo only worth if you get into A classes, and entrance test has some freaky questions. it's good if you want to accelerate your content, which is why a lot of people go iirc (they start 3u in y10). but revision isn't really done.

ngo is pretty cheap iirc and has several locations. i think specialist class is good there, don't know much. maybe someone else could comment.

overall i'd say it depends on the way you learn best. i went to du for a tiny bit (and i didn't like the mathematical proof stuff bc it was confusing) and then swapped to scom and i can barely the stuff i did in du because there wasn't that much revision in du.
 

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More or less the same. I’m not too sure about Kurt but Ngo is a safe option if ur in a high enough class. I’ve heard Dr Du is only good if in his top class. Idk. Tutoring is kinda overrated. As long as you understand what’s being taught and regularly revise it should be all the same.
yep, agree, tutoring is worth what you make of it. if you don't put much effort into paying attention/doing work then you won't get much out.

also, on a side note, a lot of places just make already high achieving students achieve higher
 

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kurt is apparantly 600/term (depends on amt of lessons and i'm pretty sure they're 2h lessons), is in epping, teaches topics then gives homework and topic tests, and if you fail topic tests (under 50%) or don't do hw, you get detentions which are pretty long (3h+ i think) where you do the last 3 topic tests. i'm pretty sure if you're missing content they'll assign a priv tutor until you're up to pace

du gets progressively more expensive the later you go (but lessons get longer), is in hurstville/burwood. they introduce topics with mathematical proof, give weekly topic tests and hw(which is graded). imo only worth if you get into A classes, and entrance test has some freaky questions. it's good if you want to accelerate your content, which is why a lot of people go iirc (they start 3u in y10). but revision isn't really done.

ngo is pretty cheap iirc and has several locations. i think specialist class is good there, don't know much. maybe someone else could comment.

overall i'd say it depends on the way you learn best. i went to du for a tiny bit (and i didn't like the mathematical proof stuff bc it was confusing) and then swapped to scom and i can barely the stuff i did in du because there wasn't that much revision in du.
i heard kurt was expensive lmao
 

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Hi!
I am looking for a tutoring place for mathematics in year 10 so I will be able to get into 3u and possibly 4u maths? However, I have heard both Kurt, Dr Du and Ngo and sons are good. I have some questions about these places.
- What is the difference between them and which one is the best in terms of their content and how they teach?
- Does Ngo and Sons have an entrance test?
- How hard is the Kurt and Dr du entrance test and how do I do well in it?
Thanks!
ngo and sons has an entrance exam just to see what lvl ur in but they accept everyone. if u cant make it into kurt or a1 in du(i heard other class teachers are trash) go specialist at ngo
 

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Thanks for the reply! What would a high class in Ngo be?
a high class would be advanced / accelerated / specialist (in that order), and i would say these are the levels with the best teachers. for specialist, you would need to sit the exam to get in, however i know they go pretty fast through the content, so that they finish all the content well ahead of school and spend that huge chunk of time (i think that's equivalent to a few terms) revising the content. accelerated is more catered to higher end selective schools; as someone who is in the accel level i remember starting 2u and 3u trigonometry in year 9 (and we receive the specialist booklets) but it's nowhere near as fast-paced as specialist and if you go to those schools it's pretty good as the teachers can adjust the teaching program based on what the scope and syllabus for your school is. advanced is also ahead of school too and it's also pretty good

i don't know about specialist, but advanced and accelerated classes are taught by the director of the parra campus. i think he's great ngl
 

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a high class would be advanced / accelerated / specialist (in that order), and i would say these are the levels with the best teachers. for specialist, you would need to sit the exam to get in, however i know they go pretty fast through the content, so that they finish all the content well ahead of school and spend that huge chunk of time (i think that's equivalent to a few terms) revising the content. accelerated is more catered to higher end selective schools; as someone who is in the accel level i remember starting 2u and 3u trigonometry in year 9 (and we receive the specialist booklets) but it's nowhere near as fast-paced as specialist and if you go to those schools it's pretty good as the teachers can adjust the teaching program based on what the scope and syllabus for your school is. advanced is also ahead of school too and it's also pretty good

i don't know about specialist, but advanced and accelerated classes are taught by the director of the parra campus. i think he's great ngl
@kkk579 aren't you in specialist
 

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a high class would be advanced / accelerated / specialist (in that order), and i would say these are the levels with the best teachers. for specialist, you would need to sit the exam to get in, however i know they go pretty fast through the content, so that they finish all the content well ahead of school and spend that huge chunk of time (i think that's equivalent to a few terms) revising the content. accelerated is more catered to higher end selective schools; as someone who is in the accel level i remember starting 2u and 3u trigonometry in year 9 (and we receive the specialist booklets) but it's nowhere near as fast-paced as specialist and if you go to those schools it's pretty good as the teachers can adjust the teaching program based on what the scope and syllabus for your school is. advanced is also ahead of school too and it's also pretty good

i don't know about specialist, but advanced and accelerated classes are taught by the director of the parra campus. i think he's great ngl
at the fairfield campus advanced is apparently kinda slow but for my grade (yr9) they just put all the accelerated kids into the specialist class
 

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oh damn why
i was originally in advanced coz i joined ngo during covid so they just put me in a class based off of my school lol(in advanced) all the accelerated kids were so far ahead of advanced and i thought it would be way too difficult to catch up so i declined the offer lol. but it turns out they are doing the year 10 course like all over again so should of accepted it 😭😭(coz at the time of the offer advanced hadnt even touched yr10 content and accel was already finished with it so i thought in specialist they would begin y11 content which they didn’t end up doing tbh i blame my teacher she told me they would start y11 content 😭😭)
 

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i was originally in advanced coz i joined ngo during covid so they just put me in a class based off of my school lol(in advanced) all the accelerated kids were so far ahead of advanced and i thought it would be way too difficult to catch up so i declined the offer lol. but it turns out they are doing the year 10 course like all over again so should of accepted it 😭😭(coz at the time of the offer advanced hadnt even touched yr10 content and accel was already finished with it so i thought in specialist they would begin y11 content which they didn’t end up doing tbh i blame my teacher she told me they would start y11 content 😭😭)
rip, why dont u ask her just in case
 

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