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1. If P(x,y) is any point on the line y=4x+3 show that the midpoint M of OP has the co-ordinates M(x/2,0.5(4x+3)). Hence find the locus of M
...i have done the 1st part i just don't know how to find the locus.

2. P(x,y) is a variable point on the line 2x-3y+6=0 and the pint Q divides OP in the ration 3:2. Show that the co-ordinates of Q are (3x/5, 2/5(x+3)). Hence find the locus of Q.
....I know what formula to use to find the co-ordinates of Q. just i don't know where to get the data so i can input it into the formula.

3. Show that if P(x1,y1,z1) and Q(x2,y2,z2) are two points in three dimensional space,
then (PQ)^2= (x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2+(z2-z1)^2
Need help. Thanks
 
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1. let the x coordinate be x1
then 2x1 = x
y1 = 0.5(8x1 + 3)

2. 5/3x1 = x
y1 = 2/5(5/3 x1+3)


3. just use pythagoras
 

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for 3. i can't use pythagoras can i because pythagoras is on a 2 dimensional plane, this is three dimensional.
 

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lolokay said:
1. let the x coordinate be x1
then 2x1 = x
y1 = 0.5(8x1 + 3)

2. 5/3x1 = x
y1 = 2/5(5/3 x1+3)


3. just use pythagoras
your part 2. does not make any sense.
 

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you've never used pythag in 3-d?
say you have 3 lines; x, y and z and you want to find the diagonal xyz
then for the xy diagonal (xy) xy2 = x2 + y2
and for the the xyz diagonal (xyz) xyz2 = xy2 + z2
= x2 + y2 + z2

(hopefully the way I explained the diagonals makes sense)

+ what doesn't make sense about my part 2.? (apart from it not being simplified) I haven't really done this type of question before

we have x1 = 3x/5
so x = 5/3 *x1, then sub that into y1
 
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lolokay said:
you've never used pythag in 3-d?
say you have 3 lines; x, y and z and you want to find the diagonal xyz
then for the xy diagonal (xy) xy2 = x2 + y2
and for the the xyz diagonal (xyz) xyz2 = xy2 + z2
= x2 + y2 + z2

(hopefully the way I explained the diagonals makes sense)

+ what doesn't make sense about my part 2.? (apart from it not being simplified) I haven't really done this type of question before

we have x1 = 3x/5
so x = 5/3 *x1, then sub that into y1
Ok part 2 is right. My mistake sorry.
Thanks for your help :)
 

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kk, thought it was.

btw, an easy way to solve this type of locus would be to notice that the locus will have the same gradient but the y intercept will be K times as much as the old intercept, where K is the ratio of the line intersected on the origin-side

eg. for "2x-3y+6=0 and the point Q divides OP in the ratio 3:2"
you have 2x-3y+18/5=0 (since 3/5 of the line lies towards the origin, 6*3/5 = 18/5)

of course, you can't do this since in these questions because of how it asked you to solve them
 

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lolokay said:
kk, thought it was.

btw, an easy way to solve this type of locus would be to notice that the locus will have the same gradient but the y intercept will be K times as much as the old intercept, where K is the ratio of the line intersected on the origin-side

eg. for "2x-3y+6=0 and the point Q divides OP in the ratio 3:2"
you have 2x-3y+18/5=0 (since 3/5 of the line lies towards the origin, 6*3/5 = 18/5)

of course, you can't do this since in these questions because of how it asked you to solve them
Thanks, for the tip.
 

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