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Venezuelan president declares free of illiteracy



Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Friday that his country was now free of illiteracy, signing a decree that makes Oct. 28 its literacy day.

He gave special praise to Mission Robinson, the popular name for a literacy plan which has taught 1.5 million Venezuelans to read in just over two years, the equivalent of two thousand people becoming literate every day.

Chavez told the workers and consultants who use the Robinson system that people can only be considered free when democracy is in the hands of educated voters.

Following the success of Mission Robinson, Venezuela's illiteracy level has dropped below one percent. The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) says that a country should be considered free of illiteracy when less than four percent of its people are illiterate.

Source: Xinhua http://english.people.com.cn/200510/29/eng20051029_217613.html
 

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It is a big acheivement and show Venezuala is going ahead. Education is one of the greatest thing a society can have.

They must continue on this path and their plan should not be disrupted.
 

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Hands up if you trust a communist government not to make up figures to suit their needs.
 

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They aren't communist, Venezuela is democratic with a left wing government.
 

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He has legislated against any forms of disrespect towards him or his government in the media. This means that anyone who dares promote capitalist parties will probably be locked up for up to 40 months because of this broad definition, and once again demonstrates that there is no such thing as democratic socialism.
 

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you'd suppress opposition too if multi millionaire evangelical christian media barons kept trying to have you murdered
 

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Liberal Scum said:
He has legislated against any forms of disrespect towards him or his government in the media. This means that anyone who dares promote capitalist parties will probably be locked up for up to 40 months because of this broad definition, and once again demonstrates that there is no such thing as democratic socialism.
Well look at America during the early years of the Cold War, anyone suspected by the FBI of having communist sympathies was chucked into prison for being 'unamerican' thanks to McCarthyism. America saw Soviet style communism as their enemy, same as how Venezuela now sees American style capitalism as their enemy.

No such thing as democratic socialism? Take a look at the Nordic countries such as Sweden then, they are living proof that democratic socialism exists and works.
 

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Well look at America during the early years of the Cold War, anyone suspected by the FBI of having communist sympathies was chucked into prison for being 'unamerican' thanks to McCarthyism. America saw Soviet style communism as their enemy, same as how Venezuela now sees American style capitalism as their enemy.

No such thing as democratic socialism? Take a look at the Nordic countries such as Sweden then, they are living proof that democratic socialism exists and works.
So what you're saying is that US social policy is 50 years more advanced than that of Venezuela?
 

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No, I'm saying that democratic countries do throw people believed to be 'siding with the enemy' into jail.

Back in the 1950-60s America it was communism, now its Islamists. Any self styled mullah/ayatollah/cleric sprouting sympathic words, giving aid, promoting the cause of 'the enemy' in America gets some serious 'roughing up' in a federal prison (or possibly Cuba).

With Venezuela its imperialistic American capitalists/CIA assasins/right wing 'evangelical' US terrorists that they see as the enemy. Hence the hostlity to America and American policies.

If you promote the cause of the enemy you will be treated as a traitor and charged with treason no matter the country.
 

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No, I'm saying that democratic countries do throw people believed to be 'siding with the enemy' into jail.

Back in the 1950-60s America it was communism, now its Islamists. Any self styled mullah/ayatollah/cleric sprouting sympathic words, giving aid, promoting the cause of 'the enemy' in America gets some serious 'roughing up' in a federal prison (or possibly Cuba).

With Venezuela its imperialistic American capitalists/CIA assasins/right wing 'evangelical' US terrorists that they see as the enemy. Hence the hostlity to America and American policies.

If you promote the cause of the enemy you will be treated as a traitor and charged with treason no matter the country.
Did I say I support this kind of action? I disagree with throwing people in jail/deporting them for "inciting violence".
 

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How come you like Venezuala so much, Comrade?
Well it has made some great advances in the last couple of years. Rising wages, rising employment. Land reform that has taken back large amounts of land that was not being used. Education and health programs, which is helped by Cuba. The removal of US influences in the Army, the slow removal of foreign influences.

They have created a state that truely is connecting with the people and is emerging as a 3rd world leader. The hopefull path is to build a political and trading alliance among South America and South East asia.

Though i do have many criticism with Venezeula. It can easily fail if there isn't class education, if it doesn't economical disengage with the US. Also if it just spends revenue on public services and doesn't build more into self sufficient economy. Though they land reform is promising.1


Liberal Scum said:
He has legislated against any forms of disrespect towards him or his government in the media. This means that anyone who dares promote capitalist parties will probably be locked up for up to 40 months because of this broad definition, and once again demonstrates that there is no such thing as democratic socialism.
No they haven't. The only thing a party can't do is accept money from foreign countries. I think some people go in trouble with that, it may not even been law i would have to look it up.

But either way you have shown no proof this is the case.
 
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That does not prove your point that it will prison capitalist parties.
 

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It shows that there is a very broad definition in the law and the potential is there for horrendous misuse.
 

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Given the violent rhetoric from US leaders calling for his assasination and all (plus actual failed attempts), Venezuela should stop selling oil to the US once it builds up a credible modern defence force with NATO standard weapons.

After the failed CIA assasination attempt, Chazev declared that Venezuela would immediately cut off oil supplies to the US if he is killed. (Venezulea supplies some 15% of US oil needs)
 

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i love how america is so blatantly rife with hypocrisy

they're all mad about getting syria for killing that ex lebanese leader

but then theyre the most coup/assassination-happy nation out there

and it's the supposedly christian leaders that are the most outspoken about it
 

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Yeha, I bet you do.
Australia is more able than this shit-hole of a country to have no illiteracy, yet if Johnny said that we are a completely literate nation, then you'd have nooooo trouble believing him would you?

F**k I hate you left pricks. F**K I hate you. You’re so stupid, and you’re arrogant about your stupidity. And what’s more, is you think that we are so stupid, we won’t recognise……BLEH no use trying to expose you moles.
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uh australia is a completely literate nation, by the standards of most humanitarian groups. obviously no country has absolutely no one who can't read

nice argument there too
 

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That doesn't make sense. He banned parties long before Christian leaders *supposedly* called for his assassination.
Evangelist Robertson 'insane at very least'

12.10.05 8.20am


Venezuela has brushed off "absurd" charges by US evangelist Pat Robertson that President Hugo Chavez sent money to Osama bin Laden after the September 11 attacks.

Offering no evidence, the Christian conservative leader said Chavez was "negotiating with the Iranians to get nuclear material. And he also sent US$1.2 million to bin Laden right after 9/11".

Venezuela's Vice-President said Robertson was "insane at the very least".
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10349821
Media Views
Media Matters: Robertson Called for the Assassination of Venezuela's President (8/22/05) by Nicole Casta

Pat Robertson on the 700 Club says the U.S. should assassinate Hugo Chavez, the elected president of Venezuela:
You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.... We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.


The 700 Club is owned by the Disney corporation.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=22&media_view_id=6108

Christians should publicly disavow Robertson; brings religion into disrepute

Orlando (Florida) based journalist Charley Reese writes: Pat Robertson, host of "The 700 Club," is not a Christian. No man who publicly advocates cold-blooded murder for political reasons can claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ.

Robertson did that on his television show, saying it would be cheaper to murder the President of Venezuela than to overthrow him with a war.

The President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, is a frequent critic of President George Bush and the United States ... he is also democratically elected.

It's funny how many people in the American elite who profess to advocate democracy tend to change their minds when the results of democracy don't suit them. Nowhere is it written that a free and democratic election will produce a leader whom we like.

That should be obvious from the outcomes of our elections ... sometimes we like the winner, and sometimes we don't.
The essence of a democratic society, however, is that when we don't like the winner, we put up with him until the next election.

For a long time, I've not believed that Robertson is a Christian.

I have this old-fashioned idea that rich preachers are incompatible with Christianity.

If you don't already know this, most of the televangelists spend an inordinate amount of their time and efforts fundraising and living in the lap of luxury. I assume darn few of them will squeeze through that eye of the needle that Christ spoke of in regard to a rich man getting into heaven.

Robertson is a politician who uses Christianity as a source of income and as a cover for his political goals.

Get Thee behind me Satan?

What business is it of Robertson who the President of Venezuela is, or what he thinks of our president? Lots of world leaders don't like George Bush. It doesn't seem to bother Bush; why should it bother Robertson?

Venezuela, despite its oil wealth, is a very poor country ... the bane of most Latin American countries is that the wealth is held by a few families while the bulk of the population is poor.

Chavez seems to want to do a better job of redistribution of the country's income ... that's such a tough job that he doesn't need any grief from us.

I suspect the CIA was slyly involved in the move to oust Chavez a year or so ago, and, if true, he has a right to be irked. One of the sins of imperial America is that we are always meddling in the internal affairs of other countries, usually with bad results. If you think the CIA has a bad record in finding weapons of mass destruction, let me tell you, it has an even worse record of picking leaders of foreign countries. Some of the murderers the CIA helped put into power are easily candidates for the Hall of Infamy.

But to get back to Mr. Robertson ... his followers now have a clear choice: Are they going to follow the teachings of Christ or the teachings of Robertson?

The two are incompatible.

Some people are skillful at reading the Bible out of context, but you won't find one word in the New Testament, which is the Christian Bible, that advocates murder for any reason. No one can be a Christian and a booster of political assassination, too.
Unlike many people in the political wars, I don't condemn what the left calls the Christian Right. Most of these people are just plain Christians, and in these decadent times, simple Christian morality is certainly deemed to be an "extremist" position by the debauched secularists. To be honest, humble, faithful to one's spouse and respectful of human life certainly strikes the far left as being "out of the mainstream," which is exactly where decent people want to be when the mainstream connects the toilet to the cesspool.

Nevertheless, Christians should publicly disavow people like Robertson who bring the religion into disrepute. Christ lived in the Roman Empire and never advocated its reform or overthrow ... His message was, "See to your own soul."

The idea of involving Christianity in political wars, assassinations or as allies of Zionism or any other "ism" is heresy.

Christianity is about the next world, not this one.

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years. Write to him at P.O. Box 2446, Orlando, FL 32802.
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46506
*supposedly* my arse :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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That doesn't make sense. He banned parties long before Christian leaders *supposedly* called for his assassination.
Which parties?

Australia is more able than this shit-hole of a country to have no illiteracy, yet if Johnny said that we are a completely literate nation, then you'd have nooooo trouble believing him would you?
We are are a completely literate nation. That does not mean we have excactly 100%, it means that the amount of illeterate people are an insignificant miniroty. If you get to 4% of your nation not being literate then you are declared a 100% literate country.

Also the point wasn't to compare nations, the point of posting this was to inform people of Venezuela's progress, and that seemed to have you made spiteful which is quite pathetic.
 

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