what makes selective schools better? (1 Viewer)

[Hivaclibtibcharkwa]

How is their school system different to normal schools?

 

[specificagent1]

i have the same question for unis. What makes some unis different to others?

 

[uniqueusername1]

How is their school system different to normal schools?

i'm pretty sure its the same, the only difference is the people (more academically gifted).

They don't have superior teacher, more homework etc... everything is pretty similar lol.

 

[Greninja340]

How is their school system different to normal schools?

main thing would be the cohort, everyone is a lot more academically motivated and it kinda pushes you too

 

[jazz519]

How is their school system different to normal schools?

It's the same but the level of average student is higher. By putting these students with each other they can study at a level that is more appropriate for them and it fosters competition between students of a high level pushing to perform better. This is opposed to the abilities in a normal school where it is probably more varied. Here the teacher can't move as fast in the content because they need to cater for all students.

 

[Greninja340]

i have the same question for unis. What makes some unis different to others?

i think with unis they might have better connections i.e. better internship opportunities. but i dont know thats just my guess

 

[AKONS]

Agreeing with above, the main difference is the people and culture:

ADV
- Shared respect for academics --> way more competition between students.
- You're almost guaranteed to find someone smarter than you --> encourages you to work even harder, and humbles you.
- Opportunities to meet students from other selective schools with similar values.
- Students of similar prowess can help raise each other up.

DIS
- In the selective community students tend to be judged foremost by their school's rank or brand recognition.
- Tutoring culture where parents casually throw out tens of thousands of dollars on their kids, and leads to some students obsessing over tutoring work to the point it harms their actual school work.
- ATAR factory: extra curriculars and sports are fairly neglected (relative to academics) at some of these schools.
- "Band 6 at all costs" mentality for some students.

 

[jazz519]

i think with unis they might have better connections i.e. better internship opportunities. but i dont know thats just my guess

Uni's for the most part don't give you the internship. There may be certain programs in which the uni is linked to an industry but it's not really like go a uni = get an internship. You have to go and apply at companies yourself so that's not really the difference between them

 

[Hivaclibtibcharkwa]

ATAR factory: extra curriculars and sports are fairly neglected (relative to academics) at some of these schools.
- "Band 6 at all costs" mentality for some students.

Could you elaborate and possibly give an example of this?

 

[Hivaclibtibcharkwa]

My mates and I go to a private school and although it has a better environment it’s not different to public schools in academics. We were wondering whether it’s better to go to a public selective school, and spend those $8000 a year on matrix education or other tutoring for better academic success?

 

[5uckerberg]

Could you elaborate and possibly give an example of this?

Shall I give an example Kurt's education, Dr Du? Read the forums regarding them and you will see a lot of fireworks there between former high students in those forums.

 

[ghudshifjhwijnc]

Pros: ur basically surrounded by academically gifted people which pushes you to perform better and i guess as you enter uni, i've noticed from other people that selective kids tend to stick together?? i guess it makes your circle be filled with more smarter?? people haha

Cons: All this constant comparing and competition makes you feel like your dumb and makes you lose confidence in some subjects lol

 

[idkkdi]

i'm pretty sure its the same, the only difference is the people (more academically gifted).

They don't have superior teacher, more homework etc... everything is pretty similar lol.

there's probably more homework. but it's stuff u could probably find/buy yourself.

 

[AKONS]

My mates and I go to a private school and although it has a better environment it’s not different to public schools in academics. We were wondering whether it’s better to go to a public selective school, and spend those $8000 a year on matrix education or other tutoring for better academic success?

I'd say 80% of the time (traditional) tutoring can be replaced by just grit and hard work (except for subjects that you're hopelessly weak in). Doing well at a selective schools isn't 100% dependent on tutoring. While tutoring can provide you direction, from my experience and what I've seen from tutoring centres, traditional tutoring is a baby sitting service that can be replaced by a 10 minute Eddie Woo video and a drop of self-confidence.

I personally spend less than $1000-1500 per year on a more independent form of tutoring. They don't assign me work or teach me content. I can do that myself. They provide a skilled review of the essays I submit and critique my answering skills (which is difficult to learn from a book).

 

[YourLocalDumbAss]

idk, you don’t get generally any dropkicks wanna be eshays and junkies and the people are competitive on winning dux every year.

 

[Epicman69]

There is no difference, the only difference when it comes to it is really just the atar. Iirc I read that James Ruse had a median atar of 99.2 in 2017, so that means if you were above the median rank during that time in James Ruse you were pretty much guaranteed a 99 atar, provided you don't flunk the HSC. So basically Selective schools just group really smart kids together in an attempt to make them smarter, but from personal experience, some selective school teachers can be really shit hence why a lot of us go tutoring since they just don't teach the content well enough to achieve the 99 atars that our parents require to not get disowned.

 

[Hivaclibtibcharkwa]

There is no difference, the only difference when it comes to it is really just the atar. Iirc I read that James Ruse had a median atar of 99.2 in 2017, so that means if you were above the median rank during that time in James Ruse you were pretty much guaranteed a 99 atar, provided you don't flunk the HSC. So basically Selective schools just group really smart kids together in an attempt to make them smarter, but from personal experience, some selective school teachers can be really shit hence why a lot of us go tutoring since they just don't teach the content well enough to achieve the 99 atars that our parents require to not get disowned.

But wouldn’t selective schools have some kind of teacher supervision or something to ensure they have the best teachers for their students?

 

[Epicman69]

But wouldn’t selective schools have some kind of teacher supervision or something to ensure they have the best teachers for their students?

Can confirm I have had English teachers that legit gives us work sheets and just say "do it"

 

[YourLocalDumbAss]

Can confirm I have had English teachers that legit gives us work sheets and just say "do it"

My English teacher has flooded me with worksheets of so many that at this stage I’m using a folder instead of an exercise book to keep my notes.

 

[uniqueusername1]

idk, you don’t get generally any dropkicks wanna be eshays and junkies and the people are competitive on winning dux every year.

Mate come on Eshays can destroy any selective kid. They are leading physicists which have won several noble prizes and have invented the wheel. However, they are so humble they act dumb just to blend in with the kids so they don't intimidate others. Honestly, they are such a blessing they keep the school safe and monitor it.