bringbackshred
I AM ANGRY.
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Damn, all of those posts are way too long.
dion7789 said:it is absolute bs that if u dont get the uai ur screwed. For things like law or medicine it is a high uai but if u dont get it u can just as easily get into uni in something similar and transfer in ur 2nd yr if u can. If u really want to be a 'high-flying lawyer" then u would obviously have to be prepared. if its ur dream what is 1 or 2 years even 3 years difference. NOTHING! ust because u may be 5 years behind ur school cohort for those doing law it doesnt mean u wont be successful. anyway how many high flying 20 something year old lawyers do u see?
How is it not a nice attitude? It's the truth. I'm not making any presumptions about why someone misses out on their goal. Sometimes shit happens, I know, and there's not much you can do about it.That's not exactly a nice attitude to have towards people. You have no idea what people go through during their HSC year that could effect their assessments, exams, hsc marks and finally their UAI. Some of these yes they can get special consideration and EAS but for some their marks are to far gone for it to help.
But given the scenario you raised yes if you wanted to be a lawyer or doctor with a 70 UAI it would be a set back and you might take longer to get were you want to be but if it is truly your dream job you will take an path any road and get there no matter what. Yes your UAI and HSC might not of been able to get you in straight away but if you really want it you will take the other paths and open doors for yourself.
No, it really is.-pari- said:- the hsc isn't "hard"
Ah I see your point but there are some people that do want to be doctors and lawyers but didn't get the desired UAI they wanted. It could be the only real thing they wanted to do, just because they didn't get there at the first oppertunity doesn't mean they should stop trying or not take the other paths.littlewing69 said:How is it not a nice attitude? It's the truth. I'm not making any presumptions about why someone misses out on their goal. Sometimes shit happens, I know, and there's not much you can do about it.
What you're saying doesn't make any sense. "but if you really want it you will...open doors for yourself". That's just simply not true. Plenty of people would love to be doctors/lawyers/vets/rocket scientists etc. but simply can't achieve it. That's life. We all compete amongst each other for the 'best' jobs, most money, biggest opportunities. There are winners, and there are losers. HSC is not the be all and end all of life, but it is a very large step in getting yourself to whatever goals you have set. Sure, sometimes you can recover from a failure at HSC level, but other times you're screwed.
All I'm trying to say is that we all have limited money, limited time and limited talent. Depending on your allotment of those three, you may never achieve your goal, no matter how much you want it. It's just silly to pretend otherwise.
Oh so you think it's fine to bludge through year 12 and kill time just because you think you don't need the UAI?pritnep said:Your point would be? If that's what you want to do then there is nothing wrong with it. Because if your point is it's the easy path that's hardly true, it's just the right path for that career.
littlewing69 said:No, it really is.
I laughed so hard at that. You made my night.Vladkun said:Just go to tafe and be a plumber
Eh? No that's putting words into my mouth.Nakashima said:Oh so you think it's fine to bludge through year 12 and kill time just because you think you don't need the UAI?
When you disregard the HSC, you lose the opportunities it will provide you. If you just accept the fact that you're at school and might as well learn while you're still at it, you can actually achieve something. If you decide against uni in the end, so be it. Go be a plumber, go to tafe, get an apprenticeship, follow your dreams, etc.
But what happens if you change your mind?
The whole point is to open yourself to as many opportunities as possible so you can use the time you have left to decide what you want to be. That decision usually changes throughout school and isn't made until the very very end. If you enter year 12 wanting to be a plumber, you can't be sure you'll still want that by the end.
I fail to see the funny side.bringbackshred said:I laughed so hard at that. You made my night.
Because this forum (and life in general I suppose) would be boring if everyone had the same opinion.bmwz4 said:why cant ppl just accept that the hsc is what u make it? people have different goals and dreams.
That's so not true! It sounds cliche but screwing up the HSC is not the end of the world, there are far worse things in life to put it into perspective. The HSC is important and yes going well in it can save you a lot of trouble and make your road easier, but don't go thinking that your life is screwed if you dont go well. For some people it's not possible to go well during that year.littlewings69 said:For all the talk of back doors and alternative pathways...if you fuck up the HSC...you're still kinda screwed.
But it is true, to an extent at least. Sure things can happen in life that can screw up your plans and no amount of "believing in yourself" can fix it, but messing up the HSC is certainly not one of them. Just wait until something really bad happens to you, the HSC will seem like nothing.littlewings69 said:Say you wanted to be a high-flying lawyer, or a doctor, and you get a 70. You're fucked.
People always say this Oprah-esque thing about 'achieving whatever you want if you believe in yourself', but it's just not true. If you bugger up your UAI, you can close a couple of doors forever, or at best waste another 4 years of your life clawing your way back up into something you wanted.
Exactly.pritnep said:That's not exactly a nice attitude to have towards people. You have no idea what people go through during their HSC year that could effect their assessments, exams, hsc marks and finally their UAI. Some of these yes they can get special consideration and EAS but for some their marks are to far gone for it to help.
Wise wordspritnep said:If people don't dream then what do they really have. Yes there are the realistic dreams and the not so realistic dreams. Plenty of people have gone on to succeed when people told them they never could. People have walked when they were told they never would, got fit again when nobody thought they could, got off drugs and are now successful. You can't not dream just because the odds are against you if anything that can be a motivation.
I never said it was the end of the world.Sprinkles~ said:That's so not true! It sounds cliche but screwing up the HSC is not the end of the world, there are far worse things in life to put it into perspective. The HSC is important and yes going well in it can save you a lot of trouble and make your road easier, but don't go thinking that your life is screwed if you dont go well. For some people it's not possible to go well during that year.
I count 4 unnecessary years of work which may or may not in the end actually pay off as constituting being 'screwed' because you bombed the HSC for whatever reason. I never said any more or any less.And I don't see how it is wasting 4 years of your life if you are working towards something that you really want.
You haven't done the HSC yet. It is certainly hard. Overwhelmingly so, at times.-pari- said:
okay now i think we'd have to define "hard"
but i guess bottom line the threadstarter was trying to get out was to do your best, dont stress too much and you should be good
But what if you do in the end, there are seriously heaps of ways to get into uni. There's even enabling programs like Newstep at Newcastle uni, or the one at UTS etc etc, so that people who missed out still have the opportunity to get into uni.littlewing69 said:What if you never get in?
lol. that i know, coz that much i've already seen and experienced myself.You haven't done the HSC yet. It is certainly hard. Overwhelmingly so, at times.
Sometimes stress and fear can be great motivating factors.