How do you beat naturally smart people? (1 Viewer)

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Like alot of other people have said, you have to study and really put in the effort to go good in the subject.
and hey, if this person is so good, why not ask them for help? could get some pretty damn good tips from them on how to remember formulas and such.
 

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To be honest, I think Tangent has given you the possible answer, but I thought I'd throw some opinions in for having been through it - in case you are not convinced by him. :)

To quote some: "your UAI (or ATAR) will not matter once you have received the offer from the university that you want to study at". If you are arrogant enough you may think that it's an excuse people have to comfort themselves for not having achieved what they set out for, which is fair enough because that does describe a lot of people (oops ), but there is some truth in it otherwise.

I have met *lots* of very very very bright people. At the beginning it was very frustrating - let's face it, who likes to get owned in something that she/he loves doing? That was, however, rather silly in retrospect. In fact, I feel fortunate to have met these people because they really do make you learn much faster, not to mention that they are generally really nice people. :) (There are clearly some who are pretentious and/or manipulative, but meh, you just ignore them)

So, does that mean the rest of us are always second-grade? Nope! 'cause we really are cut out for different things. You will realise (I hope) that you are good at something that other people are not, much like duckcowhybrid's idea of a pet subject.

To give you a personal example, I've been quite pathetic at exams since after high school and the only attempt to top a core subject only saw me coming second; later on I realised by accident that I'm really quite good at research (saying something like that about oneself is often weird...); it's been fantastic since then and I'm owning everyone at what I know I'm good at. ;) (Oh, and learning from the smart people of what I'm not good at :p) At the very least I know I can draw reaction mechanisms and understand chemical kinetics better than most. ;)

After a looong detour and back to answering your original question/request: it's pointless. Personally, I think that not only did Tangent give you the best possible answer, he has also given you the best possible solution. :) If worst comes to worst, your UAI (or ATAR... I should really figure this out) doesn't matter at the end of the day" (assuming that you are reasonably smart and care enough to work hard, which seems to be a fair assumption). Also, as a little aside, if you are familiar with the law of diminishing returns, you should try applying that to a model comprised of unit(s) of increase in exam marks, time spent on studying, time for relaxing and time spent with family/friends.


Hope that helps! :)




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+1! :uhhuh:
I would consider myself a naturally smart person - and let me say, it's nigh impossible. Why? The HSC is something a naturally smart person like myself wishes to ace, and therefore where a person who averages 70 will work up to 87, myself, at 85 will work similarly to get 95.

I always remember I am ranked against the state and every mark I can possibly get is valuable - and therefore for the purposes of the HSC, don't even bother, unless you know the person is lazy.

HOWEVER, these people are usually very open to help others - why? When they review things with you, they are applying knowledge they already have but may be somewhat fuzzy on, and help themselves. I'm always open to help - because I've learned that teaching others is a great way to revise material. Use them as a resource, don't suffer in silence, study with them.


Besides, most of the smart people are introverts like myself and would love to have some company around!
To think that theres no resiliency and optimism in this forum LOL:dog:

A quote by Napoleon Hill - What the mind concieves and believes, The mind will achieve.

If you put your mind to something, Anything is possible. Not doubting your words, But its a bit misleading.
But yeah, i understand what you guys mean. I often think to myself though which is kinda cliche I KNOW but everyone was born with a brain (generalising here) mouth, nose etc how am i different? Why does he get better marks ..theres clearly something going on. Well, thats the thought that keeps me going anyway.:skip:

-Thanks for everyones response btw. didnt expect to get as much responses as i did!
 

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The simple answer, work harder and play brain training games to increase your intelligence and cognitive levels.
 

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Let me start of by wishing everyone the very best of luck for the upcoming years, especially you 10'ers! (Hope the first term assessments are going well:cool:)

As the title suggests, how do you beat those naturally smart people? Weird and abstract question, i know but still i can't emphasize my frustration but it's not like i hate them or anything. For example, in the Maths Ext II test that i've done for this term this guy in my grade, obviously brilliant...he ranks 1 in most subjects and probably his worst rank would be in the 10's but that's Studies of Religion..no one really cares about that:p (no offense to you religo's out there :p) So anyway, he is a really bright student, he walks into the exam and tops it beating me and the rest of the guys in 4U by about minimum 5 marks; which i think, is a lot.

It's not like i don't study, because i do about 4 hours every night and a bit in the morning during exam period but not now..i've really relaxed these past days since i'm off for christmas holidays in a few days. (OH YEAH!) Yeah, so anyone have past experiences or related stories? I'm sure in most schools there has to be a genius raping every subject! I'd just like advice on how to chop him in half (mark-wise ofcourse >;D)!

Thankyou! (my bad if this post is in the wrong section or too long:angry:)
by being better!!! noob
 

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To beat naturally smart people you have too: Think like them, Act like them and study like them - Before too long you will be smarter then them!
 

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some naturally smart people are incredibly lazy and take themselves for granted.


if you are hindu or buddhist, i suggest killing yourself and hope for the best you come back naturally smart.


if you are not, i suggest killing yourself anyway
 

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some naturally smart people are incredibly lazy and take themselves for granted.


if you are hindu or buddhist, i suggest killing yourself and hope for the best you come back naturally smart.


if you are not, i suggest killing yourself anyway
I like your suggestions.

Daily Telegraph *Kid commits suicide due to the fact he wasn't smart* And BOS gets investigated.
 

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if they put it in the dt, i guess no one really cared then
 

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I like your suggestions.

Daily Telegraph *Kid commits suicide due to the fact he wasn't smart* And BOS gets investigated.
LOLOL. That would catch my attention.
 

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And all over the News, Ch 7,9 and 10.

BOS major investigation. I actually wonder who would be responsible.


I would be like =0

Thats what its all about. Attention,Attention and more Attention.


the OP
 

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