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ok so if prostitution is illegal in NSW... how do areas like The Kross operate?

just curious :)
 

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thats a good question
prostitution is not illegal...is it?
kings cross is where most of it operates
Its encouraged there
all the strip clubs and all...
:eek:
 

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bEAbEA said:
Prostitution is a victemless crime, I'm not sure if that means it is illegal or not.
Yeah i knew it was a victimless crime
Id like to know whether it is illegal or not too...
would some1 b able 2 confirm?
 

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I dont think its illegal if the prostitute solicits you from private property, such as a prositute calling from her window to a person on the street if they want a good time ;) But if the prostitute solicits you on the street, like most prostitutes then its illegal
 

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yeh see i read that prostitution is a victimless crime, which is still a crime hence it's illegal... right? well hey its illegal in NSW i think. but then how can TheCross operate if prostitution is indeed illegal?
yeh i'd like a confirmation as well if anyone can provide it :)
 

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mandalay said:
ok so if prostitution is illegal in NSW... how do areas like The Kross operate?

just curious :)

Not too sure on how far it's illegal. It is against the law to solicit, prostitution as a service wouldn't be as such. The laws governing the place of prostitution, would be under local government planning laws.
 

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mandalay said:
yeh see i read that prostitution is a victimless crime, which is still a crime hence it's illegal... right? well hey its illegal in NSW i think. but then how can TheCross operate if prostitution is indeed illegal?
yeh i'd like a confirmation as well if anyone can provide it :)

I was under the impression it was a public order offence.
 

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prostitution is a victimless crime
u need a proper permit to perform this kind of stuf.
if u don't have one then it's illegal
 

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SEX INDUSTRY LAWS – New South Wales
First the good news - sex work is legal in NSW. Any person of any gender over 18 years old may provide sexual services to any person over the age of consent in exchange for money, goods or favours. Running, or working in a sex industry business in NSW is legal as long as it is conducted within the legislative framework.

Brothels are any premises used for the purposes of prostitution. This can include premises such as massage businesses, strip clubs etc. where sexual services are also provided.

Brothels are regulated by local councils

The definition of a brothel can include one worker working from their own home or premises

Prostitution is legal and by itself is no longer a reason to have a business closed

Support staff (receptionist/front of house, security, managers) can now be legally employed

No one can force or unduly influence another person to become a sex worker.

Sex work laws that remain unchanged are:

Support staff (friends, partners) for street workers can be charged with living off the earnings

Street workers can be charged with soliciting and working near or within view of certain places

Can a massage service advertise and provide a sexual service within the law? - No. It is an offence to advertise or use any premises that advertise as massage, sauna baths, steam baths, facilities for physical exercise, photo studios or services of a like nature, for the purpose of prostitution or soliciting. These laws are not always enforced by the police but are more likely subject to action by councils.

Is street sex work Legal? - Street sex work and soliciting is legal in NSW but only in certain areas. It is illegal to solicit within view of a residential dwelling , church, hospital or school. People can still be charged with living off the earnings of a street worker. Street sex workers can be fined for loitering by local council staff. Police can fine street sex workers for not following a reasonable direction.

This information was taken from the Sex Industry Legal Kit available from SWOP NSW, and downloadable from the SWOP NSW website.

Private Workers Alliance NSW - resources and latest campaigns coming soon..

Briefing Paper for Ministers; Disorderly Houses Amendment Act Private Workers Alliance and Sex Worker Outreach Project give a history of the Disorderly Houses Act and the problems that have arisen as a result, including corruption, the safety of workers, public health strategies and local, state, national, regional and global health policies being compromised and lack of sex industry consultation. Proposes that two private workers in a dwelling be exempt from development approval. October 2001

Extract from Legislative Council 14/12/01 Disorderly Houses Bill (Amendment), Greens amendment to allow the presence of safe sex equipment on a premises without being used as evidence of a ‘brothel’. Ian Cohen, Don Harwin, John Hatzistergos, Arthur Chesterfield-Evans, Fred Nile and John Jobling

Extract from Legislative Assembly Crimes Amendment (Sexual Servitude) Act, 17/10/01 Mr Face Second Reading Speech. This Bill deals with illegal workers in NSW, and was in reflection of the Federal Criminal Code Amendment (Slavery and Sexual Servitude) Act. It unfairly targets migrant workers and criminalizes them above and beyond all other laws regarding migration and the sex industry.

Extract from Legislative Council Crimes Amendment (Sexual Servitude) Act, 27/11/01 Michael Egan Second Reading Speech Talks about the new offences created under the Act Debate includes James Samios, Ian Cohen, Arthur Chesterfield-Evans, Fred Nile, Peter Wong, Janelle Saffin and John Hatzistergos

SOURCE: http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/laws/nsw/
 

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Its illegal in Australia that's why its an offence. (i'm pretty sure) and kingscross operates as a black market where most of the women are migrants or illegal immigrants who have been made false promises and then taken there and forced to do so........sad isnt it!
 
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black market??? how on earth is the prostitution trade in KingsCross black market? lol

black market is... subtle lol
 

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and the whole "most of the women are migrants or illegal immigrants who have been made false promises and then taken there and forced to do so" seems to be grossly generalised and cliched.
 

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Prostitution is not illegal in Australia! How do you think brothels advertise in local papers? You think they would if it was illegal... we'd have drug dealers advertising their services if that was the cases. I got to Kings Cross all the time to club, the only thing I notice is the signs saying "Police targetting Curb Crawlers in this area"... i dunno what the hell that means, maybe to work as a prostitute you have to work under a licenced premises ie- a brothel and not directly on the streets. can someone clear that up?
 

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OKay i got that answer okay today in legal i asked the question and the answer i got is:

its not illegal u need to have registration with the council. (like the brothel)

okies sorry for the answer i got before Oops.
 

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Safiya said:
I got to Kings Cross all the time to club, the only thing I notice is the signs saying "Police targetting Curb Crawlers in this area"... i dunno what the hell that means, maybe to work as a prostitute you have to work under a licenced premises ie- a brothel and not directly on the streets. can someone clear that up?
What curb crawlers means is those people who drive along the streets calling out to the prostitutes and anyone else on the streets wanting sex or whatever else
the prostitutes can work from the streets as long as they are not near residential housing areas, churches or schools but they are allowed to be on the streets thats why the main drag of Kings Cross is the place for it coz its not near a school or a church and the area they are in is not residential
 

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The only way prostitution is made illegal is if you aren't working for a licensed brothel or you aren't licensed yourself as a sole owner (of the business). Licensing also requires you to obtain health insurance and the premises you work in could be randomly checked. This ensures the safety of both the escort and their client.
Ones you see t Kings Cross on the streets are, in the majority unlicensed. That's why police have regular undercovers working.

Child prostituion is illegal.

Brothels and prostitution will never ever be made illegal. They are the key drivers of the economy as a whole and well respected people in our society.
 

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