lol k ur fairly committed xDBecause I have friends that are law students.
Most law students end up working for legal aid on a shit salary anyway, so who gives a shit.
edit: settle down spazzes, before I get *attacked* by butt hurt law students...
People not doing law seem to have an inferiority complex re: law students because of this perceived notion that all law students end up stupidly rich or that law is like an episode of Boston Legal or something, idk. The reality is that only the top performers from law degrees get these glittery jobs, and so while you might be feeling inferior to a law student for whatever reason, chances are if you compare input required to finish law vs. monetary output after graduation, most of us not doing law end up better off to begin with anyway.
Interesting, because I know several people in Legal Aid and they'd be interested to see where this 60k is coming from."Most law students end up working for legal aid" - actually legal aid's biggest complaint seems to be under-resourced and under-staffed I can't tell whether you're serious or not but if you are - have a look at the legal aid websites and other info around, you'll see how untrue that is. And actually the grad pay is pretty good, their grad program (in NSW at least) is around the $60k mark which is more than decent for a first year out grad program position, especially when you consider the other benefits as far as work arrangements etc that come with working there.
Funny how people accuse lawyers of being money hungry, yet others will use making more money as the first line of 'defence' the majority of the time... Lawyers can't both be ripping off the world and earning a fortune at the same time as being worthless drones who earn nothing compared to other 'better' fields
,People not doing law seem to have an inferiority complex re: law students
only the top performers from law degrees get these glittery jobs
??if you compare input required to finish law vs. monetary output after graduation, most of us not doing law end up better off to begin with anyway
Well, technically they can. There can be lawyers ripping off the world, and lawyers that are worthless drones.Lawyers can't both be ripping off the world and earning a fortune at the same time as being worthless drones who earn nothing compared to other 'better' fields
Re legal aid - like I said, have a look on their website at the info about the graduate program. The rate of pay is there. Also I have worked at legal aid so my view doesn't come just from their ads and website info but also from talking to solicitors while I was working there.Interesting, because I know several people in Legal Aid and they'd be interested to see where this 60k is coming from.
Secondly what are you even talking about. Read my edit, I said that;
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Well, technically they can. There can be lawyers ripping off the world, and lawyers that are worthless drones.
Come on, did you read the OP? Was it worth writing an essay response to?
You just rephrased the point of that post...Of course a law student would find doing that hard as they aren't trained/educated in that field. And just the same - you would find it hard to complete tasks of a comparable level of skill in law without being trained/educated in that field.
That argument really just shows that each field is different not that any field is 'harder'. I mean, all you need to do is rock up to any court in Australia and watch for an hour or so to see the difficulty you face if you don't know what you are doing and aren't versed in the legal field and go it on your own. It would be comparable to your average idiot pulling apart their houses electrical system because they think they could wing it and figure it out. Not necessarily more or less difficult to educate yourself in how to do these tasks, but disastrous all the same
This is part of the problem with this view that "all law students" are obnoxious - a lack of physical movement in a profession does not negate it's difficulty or the level of commitment required to be really good at what you do. It's just the same as the view most people have of accountants or financial analysts and other 'non-hands on' fields. A non-tangible 'problem' may be just as difficult to resolve as a tangible, hands on one and vice versa.
You neg repped me without understanding that post.Of course a law student would find doing that hard as they aren't trained/educated in that field. And just the same - you would find it hard to complete tasks of a comparable level of skill in law without being trained/educated in that field.
That argument really just shows that each field is different not that any field is 'harder'. I mean, all you need to do is rock up to any court in Australia and watch for an hour or so to see the difficulty you face if you don't know what you are doing and aren't versed in the legal field and go it on your own. It would be comparable to your average idiot pulling apart their houses electrical system because they think they could wing it and figure it out. Not necessarily more or less difficult to educate yourself in how to do these tasks, but disastrous all the same
This is part of the problem with this view that "all law students" are obnoxious - a lack of physical movement in a profession does not negate it's difficulty or the level of commitment required to be really good at what you do. It's just the same as the view most people have of accountants or financial analysts and other 'non-hands on' fields. A non-tangible 'problem' may be just as difficult to resolve as a tangible, hands on one and vice versa.
lol, +1I haven't seen anyone use the word 'miasma' in a long while
Because the post preceding it was implying the same - in Frigid's and your own words again:You followed that post with the following in response to Frigid I think? listing comparable 'lawyer related' skills/tasks: "True, but not all simultaneously while being under such time constraints that if a cue is missed, the entire show grinds to a halt XD.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></SPAN> "
That carries an implication that the tasks you listed are more difficult than those comparable ones listed, ie that one is harder than the other not merely different.
Part of "COMPREHENSION skills" as you put it is understanding context - perhaps I did misinterpret what you said but it is not a ridiculous interpretation if that is the case given your further comment.
There was no need to be an arse in response particularly when I did not attack you.
See what he did there?Frigid said:In your scenario, various lawyers had to:
draft the design, manufacture and supply agreements for all your audio hardware;
draft the licensing agreements for all your audio software;
deal with any licensing for the public performance of music;
draft the employment contracts of the employees at the venue;
address any public liability issues at the venue;
address licensing requirements if it was a venue which served alcohol, etc.
"True, but not all simultaneously while being under such time constraints that if a cue is missed, the entire show grinds to a halt XD. " - Was again, showing that the tasks are different, not harder.Lara1986 said:That carries an implication that the tasks you listed are more difficult than those comparable ones listed, ie that one is harder than the other not merely different.
Interesting, because I know several people in Legal Aid and they'd be interested to see where this 60k is coming from.
will-anal said:Most law students end up working for legal aid on a shit salary anyway, so who gives a shit.
Clearly we are too busy being altruistic.what about medicine?
If someone asked me to name someone who is most like the the douches that the OP is talking about, I would've said you. And that was before you made that post.The ones all worked up by the OP are probably the sort he's referring to. Falling right into his trap. Oh well at least you showed your true colours.