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what are the socialists?? Im only in hs and have never heard of that. is it a uni thing??
 
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its_ace21 said:
STOP SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PALESTINE AND I WAS LIKE INTERESTED BUT I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS A FULL SOCIETY bye I thought she was just spreading awareness coz she was standing in the middle of no where
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bro the commies are everywhere they try to lure in mildly left wing ppl with sensitivity to world events and then boom you've got Introducing Marxism in one hand and they are lecturing you on how the working class should revolt against the bourgeoisie and that real communism has never been implemented before so trust me bro this system is the solution to every problem ever

i hope you didnt give them any contacts...........

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what are the socialists?? Im only in hs and have never heard of that. is it a uni thing??
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pretty much yes, i think in unsw and usyd they are the most rampant but there is also a marxist club in uts (but dont let that defer you from going to these unis!!!!! i love unsw so far and the only problem i have about the socialists is that i have to walk really fast around the main library area)
 
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SamDavisEnjoyer420 said:
bro the commies are everywhere they try to lure in mildly left wing ppl with sensitivity to world events and then boom you've got Introducing Marxism in one hand and they are lecturing you on how the working class should revolt against the bourgeoisie and that real communism has never been implemented before so trust me bro this system is the solution to every problem ever

i hope you didnt give them any contacts...........


pretty much yes, i think in unsw and usyd they are the most rampant but there is also a marxist club in uts (but dont let that defer you from going to these unis!!!!! i love unsw so far and the only problem i have about the socialists is that i have to walk really fast around the main library area)
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but what are they?? and whats their purpose? and is it a good thing or bad thing
 
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SamDavisEnjoyer420 said:
bro the commies are everywhere they try to lure in mildly left wing ppl with sensitivity to world events and then boom you've got Introducing Marxism in one hand and they are lecturing you on how the working class should revolt against the bourgeoisie and that real communism has never been implemented before so trust me bro this system is the solution to every problem ever

i hope you didnt give them any contacts...........


pretty much yes, i think in unsw and usyd they are the most rampant but there is also a marxist club in uts (but dont let that defer you from going to these unis!!!!! i love unsw so far and the only problem i have about the socialists is that i have to walk really fast around the main library area)
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Yea I did give my contacts bye I'm changing my ph9ne number
 
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SamDavisEnjoyer420 said:
bro the commies are everywhere they try to lure in mildly left wing ppl with sensitivity to world events and then boom you've got Introducing Marxism in one hand and they are lecturing you on how the working class should revolt against the bourgeoisie and that real communism has never been implemented before so trust me bro this system is the solution to every problem ever

i hope you didnt give them any contacts...........


pretty much yes, i think in unsw and usyd they are the most rampant but there is also a marxist club in uts (but dont let that defer you from going to these unis!!!!! i love unsw so far and the only problem i have about the socialists is that i have to walk really fast around the main library area)
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there’s also one at uow that’s a bit rampant
 
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Tryingtodowell said:
but what are they?? and whats their purpose? and is it a good thing or bad thing
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(i really only know the unsw socialist alliance but i think this is mostly true for the groups at usyd and uts) the socialist alliance at unsw seems pretty good on the surface level, they advocate for very nice stuff like stopping the genocide in palestine and i heard that they were also hardliners for making gay marriage legal. their members are generally very enthusiastic and i think spend a lot of their time on campus handing out flyers for whatever the current distressing world event is

but their overarching ideologies are a bit extremist… they are marxists, so they believe marx’s theory of how societies naturally progress from tribalism -> feudalism -> capitalism -> socialism -> communism (notice how each iteration gets a bit more fairer for the working class i.e. normal ppl) i think they want society to progress to socialism to fulfil their ultimate goal of communism.

their idea of communism is trotskyism, which is to overthrow people with capital (stuff that makes money like factories, workers, businesses without direct intervention from the owner) and to give all that ownership to the working class, people who actually carry out the labour (like janitors, cooks, factory workers, waiters). the effect of this is that workers will control the means of production where they can make democratic decisions for the company instead of some shadow rich guy at the top who has no consideration for the workers. trotskyism differs from what we would think of communism historically since there would be no big dictator controlling everyone, and instead of invading countries to force communism, trotskyists believe that the working class should start simultaneous revolutions across the world and implement socialism/communism in everywhere at the same time. (i think this is what the meat of trotskyism is, i haven’t read a lot about it so it may be very inaccurate 😅 also i omitted any grievances i have about this system to attempt to give an unbiased account lol)

i guess the key reason most people dislike them is that the socialist alliance itself is sooooooo annoying. walking in front of people to get their attention for what they believe is a good cause (but we are all rushing to the next class!) and trying their hardest to convince left leaning people that they have the solution to all the worlds problems is so infuriating. also their members seem very samey since they all got indoctrinated to the exact same intricate ideology. you talk to one member of the socialist alliance and you have talked to them all. perhaps trotskyism is the way forward but idc just shut up and don’t try to talk to me when i am very obviously preoccupied

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Yea I did give my contacts bye I'm changing my ph9ne number
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😭 😭 its so bad i got 5 opps following my instagram and even though i told the person in charge of my recruitment that i dont want to talk to them anymore this guy jack keeps sending me sms messages like "students for palestine workshop at 1pm! hope i will see you there :)", "participate in the student strike for palestine :)" like bro i cut ties with your group did u not get the message jack (unfortunately i have to participate in the strike since i dont have classes on the 29th (guys for the record i hate israel but these socialists are my biggest opps yet))
 
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