School Rankings 2011 (2 Viewers)

[Rafy]

As in the past, if SMH or DT doesn't release a full list (unlikely they will), i'll compile the full list in a week or two.

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[AussieVesti]

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Out of curiosity, what method have you been using in contrast to Better Education? Is this overall B6%?

 

[cap]

did actually, twice. hoping a few others do, so weight of numbers pushes them...

 

[Rafy]

can someone please ask better education to do full ranking list of %DA?... maths and english are great, but only a small part of what most schools do...

They used maths/english because that's the only available data.

 

[cap]

They used maths/english because that's the only available data.

but smh and better ed both had top 100... so data is available, just neither is willing to release it? i'm guessing better ed is simply using smh figures anyway as well... seem

 

[Rafy]

but smh and better ed both had top 100... so data is available, just neither is willing to release it? i'm guessing better ed is simply using smh figures anyway as well... seem

Yes, better ed is just using smh data.

 

[Trebla]

Indeed. It's much better to look at the value adding of an institution. i.e comparing results of earlier years to later years and measuring the improvement.

This has a measurement issue for use as a comparative tool across different schools because there are no common external exams before the HSC, especially given that the SC has been abolished (unless you count NAPLAN which isn't exactly an appropriate measure anyway). Even if you do compare HSC with SC data for the same cohort, the SC external exams only cover a limited range of subjects compared to the numerous courses offered in the HSC.

 

[Huang-Paradigm]

From 270 -> 122... THS FTW!

 

[hidemyass]

http://bettereducation.com.au/Results/Hsc1Page.aspx

full rankings for this year are out.

edit: lol my bad, no they're not, they show the top 100 and then when you click show all it shows last year's LOL.

um, they seem updated. there are differences between the Better Ed list (2011?) and 2010 SMH list

 

[cap]

hi rafy, any chance you might have had a go at the full list yet?

cheers

cap

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[hidemyass]

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Is there a list? Thanks

 

[taylor96]

Can ranks change dramatically from year to year?

 

[OzKo]

Yes.

 

[ZombieApocalypse]

As in the past, if SMH or DT doesn't release a full list (unlikely they will), i'll compile the full list in a week or two.

7 months later...

 

[Rafy]

7 months later...

If you read the thread, you'll know why it wasn't possible. (It's illegal and there was insufficient data released)

Rankings are fairly meaningless and unreliable past the top 100 anyway.

 

[ZombieApocalypse]

If you read the thread, you'll know why it wasn't possible. (It's illegal and there was insufficient data released)

Rankings are fairly meaningless and unreliable past the top 100 anyway.

Illegal?


lolwhat when did this happen?

 

[powlmao]

Illegal?


lolwhat when did this happen?

Yeah, I remember reading somewhere that it is illegal to post/share/publicise stats which rank schools

Not to sure about the details though

 

[Rafy]

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ea1990104/s18a.html

EDUCATION ACT 1990 - SECT 18A

Publication of school results

(3) School results must not be publicly revealed in a way that ranks or otherwise compares the results of particular schools, except as authorised by or under a relevant national agreement.

(4) A person must not, in a newspaper or other document that is publicly available in this State:
(a) publish any ranking or other comparison of particular schools according to school results, except with the permission of the principals of the schools involved, or
(b) identify a school as being in a percentile of less than 90 per cent in relation to school results, except with the permission of the principal of the school.
Maximum penalty: 50 penalty units in the case of an individual and 500 penalty units in any other case.

(5) Nothing in subsection (4) prohibits:
(a) anything authorised to be done by or under a relevant national agreement, or
(b) the publication of the ranking of the schools in the top 10 per cent in relation to the results of Higher School Certificate examinations and related assessments so long as the information used to determine that ranking is information as to the results of students that may be publicly revealed under subsection (6) (c).

 

[powlmao]

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ea1990104/s18a.html

EDUCATION ACT 1990 - SECT 18A

Publication of school results

(3) School results must not be publicly revealed in a way that ranks or otherwise compares the results of particular schools, except as authorised by or under a relevant national agreement.

(4) A person must not, in a newspaper or other document that is publicly available in this State:
(a) publish any ranking or other comparison of particular schools according to school results, except with the permission of the principals of the schools involved, or
(b) identify a school as being in a percentile of less than 90 per cent in relation to school results, except with the permission of the principal of the school.
Maximum penalty: 50 penalty units in the case of an individual and 500 penalty units in any other case.

(5) Nothing in subsection (4) prohibits:
(a) anything authorised to be done by or under a relevant national agreement, or
(b) the publication of the ranking of the schools in the top 10 per cent in relation to the results of Higher School Certificate examinations and related assessments so long as the information used to determine that ranking is information as to the results of students that may be publicly revealed under subsection (6) (c).

Thats so mean !!!

And also 50 penatly units isn't that much

 

[Rafy]

Thats so mean !!!

And also 50 penatly units isn't that much

It's $5500