Do you support an increased refugee intake? (4 Viewers)

[Sathius005]

Liberal MP calls for increased refuge intake
Source: Sky News

A Liberal backbencher has called for Australia's official refugee intake to double now that the flow of asylum seeker boats has stopped.
Wyatt Roy wants the 13,750 places in the humanitarian refugee program increased twofold once the current backlog of asylum seeker claims is cleared.
'With hard-won border integrity comes the confidence to raise our humanitarian program to new heights,' Mr Roy said in an opinion piece for The Australian.
The Queensland MP spent a week with border protection personnel on operations out of Darwin as part of a special parliamentary program.
'These dedicated men and women are relieved to no longer be plucking the bodies of perished children, parents and grandparents from the ocean,' he said.
There have been an estimated 1100 drownings at sea since 2008.
2013 was a record year with 300 asylum seeker boats and 20,587 people arriving.
The Abbott government's border protection crackdown has resulted in only one boat arrival so far in 2014.
The government cut the previous Labor government refugee intake from 20,000 to 13,750.

 

[wannaspoon]

No...

 

[Gary_Oak]

No overall

 

[isildurrrr1]

We spend so much money trying to stop 10k refos a year yet don't spend a dime on 457 work visa frauds or 186 employer sponsored visa frauds. Why the fuck aren't we putting more money in to catching people who are ACTIVELY defrauding the government.

 

[jdennis]

What's more important is that we stop abusing the human rights of the refugees we do have by imprisoning them for political gain.

 

[Cleavage]

No...

Care to explain?

I'm interested to hear your side of the argument

 

[Speed6]

The government should invest more in schools, hospitals, specifically more in education instead of this. Other countries are passing Australia academically and we are falling back on statistics.

 

[Fade1233]

Forget the government, the education, other countries, the economy, we people have fallen.These people have no hospital to go to and you are worried about not getting a VIP treatment at a hospital, they have no had no education, Forget the statistics because if it were their fault then we can understand but even then that would not be the conditions they should be facing. WE need clean our thoughts and 'person' before you talk about improving a developed country as ours. Not being offensive. One thing Liberal has done well.

 

[Gary_Oak]

What's more important is that we stop abusing the human rights of the refugees we do have by imprisoning them for political gain.

Fuck you.... many of the refugees are economic slackers that actually trash the place....

 

[wannaspoon]

Care to explain?

I'm interested to hear your side of the argument

Because of the fact that, of the amount of refugees accepted worldwide during a one year period, we are second per capita in the world for our intake of refugees... Unless the rest of the world is willing to increase their intake, I don't think Australia should particularly be obliged to do so...

Nothing racial or xenophobic about it, we already do enough in relation to refugee intake (the same, however, cannot be said about our treatment of asylum seekers... That is a very different debate with genuine viewpoints from both sides, disregarding the xenophobic rhetoric)

 

[Fade1233]

^ Thats like saying, let the ripples start in the pond and then we will drop the stone.

 

[isildurrrr1]

Because of the fact that, of the amount of refugees accepted worldwide during a one year period, we are second per capita in the world for our intake of refugees... Unless the rest of the world is willing to increase their intake, I don't think Australia should particularly be obliged to do so...

Nothing racial or xenophobic about it, we already do enough in relation to refugee intake (the same, however, cannot be said about our treatment of asylum seekers... That is a very different debate with genuine viewpoints from both sides, disregarding the xenophobic rhetoric)

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/r/stat-int.php

Out of 15 million international refugees we take in only around 10k a year... yeah were being swamped.

2nd per capita in the world? Yeah more like last place on the planet. Jordan, Pakistan, Germany, Kenya EASILY beats us in having more refugees. The rest of the world is already increasing their intakes. We are second in relocation which doesn't really mean shit when its only like 10k a year.

Who gives a shit about economic impact when this is an HUMANITARIAN aspect. Do you seriously suggest that we cannot afford it? Puhleez. We spend so much time "stopping the boats" we divert attention and resources away from fuckers who rort our visa system and we don't put in place enough investigative staff.

Lots of Aussies are natively from what would be considered "Refugee" background, if you're italian, greek, irish, eastern euro blooded that came her since 1910, you pretty much have family members who are getting the fuck out of europe for good reason. same goes for the massive waves of lebanese during the 80s.

 

[isildurrrr1]

The government should invest more in schools, hospitals, specifically more in education instead of this. Other countries are passing Australia academically and we are falling back on statistics.

Other countries are passing us because the education system itself is too lax. How many aussie kids try and study as hard to compete with all the asians who bust their balls? Education comes more from parenting than from the schools. If the parents are rarely involved you're already fucked.

 

[Gary_Oak]

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/r/stat-int.php

Out of 15 million international refugees we take in only around 10k a year... yeah were being swamped.

2nd per capita in the world? Yeah more like last place on the planet. Jordan, Pakistan, Germany, Kenya EASILY beats us in having more refugees. The rest of the world is already increasing their intakes. We are second in relocation which doesn't really mean shit when its only like 10k a year.

Who gives a shit about economic impact when this is an HUMANITARIAN aspect..

Yes, we don't give a shit about humanitarian .... and im sure at least half the Australian population don't give a shit ether.... why do you give a shit mate??, maybe you love sharia law you fucker.... I would only support it if the person comes from countries like vietnam or whatever..... but other than that, no muslims.... and yes, vietnamese refugees used to be a bit of a problem in the past, but however that is very petty in comparison to what we got with the muslim problem in Australia... and the musilms problems need to be stopped at all cost you fucking twat

And fuck the refugee council.... they should shut the fuck up

 

[isildurrrr1]

Yes, we don't give a shit about humanitarian .... and im sure at least half the Australian population don't give a shit ether.... why do you give a shit mate??, maybe you love sharia law you fucker.... I would only support it if the person comes from countries like vietnam or whatever..... but other than that, no muslims.... and yes, vietnamese refugees used to be a bit of a problem in the past, but however that is very petty in comparison to what we got with the muslim problem in Australia... and the musilms problems need to be stopped at all cost you fucking twat

And fuck the refugee council.... they should shut the fuck up

You do realize most refugees coming in are Sri Lanken right? other two groups are Afghani and Iraqi, which we helped completly fuck up their livelhoods.

muslim problem stop at all costs? wow ok buddy, stop drinking the haterade. Sharia law isn't going to happen in Australia, stopped being scared of the brown menace.

 

[Gary_Oak]

muslim problem stop at all costs? wow ok buddy, stop drinking the haterade. Sharia law isn't going to happen in Australia, stopped being scared of the brown menace.

Its going to happen one day.... they breed like crazy (even though there a small amount coming) .... and also to add that quite a fair few aussies (i mean pure blood aussie) converting to islam..... and one day they will outnumber us

So sharia law will happen unless we stop it...... go and look at the UK, they are trying to add some aspect of Sharia law there....

Here some links

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...c-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html

- Sharia law in courts shouldn't happen for whatever reason in our or any western (eg UK, US, here) court system, if you want sharia, GTFO out of western nations.... you fucks... we shouldn't bow down just so you want sharia law

 

[Gary_Oak]

Or is this the future you want to see

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...059.1073741829.100007242331982&type=1&theater

 

[Fiction]

Yes. I believe Australia has that responsibility as a global citizen + developed country.

 

[isildurrrr1]

Its going to happen one day.... they breed like crazy (even though there a small amount coming) .... and also to add that quite a fair few aussies (i mean pure blood aussie) converting to islam..... and one day they will outnumber us

So sharia law will happen unless we stop it...... go and look at the UK, they are trying to add some aspect of Sharia law there....

Here some links

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...c-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html

- Sharia law in courts shouldn't happen for whatever reason in our or any western (eg UK, US, here) court system, if you want sharia, GTFO out of western nations.... you fucks... we shouldn't bow down just so you want sharia law

I do agree that Sharia courts shouldn't exist in any non-muslim country, one country ONE legal system. However, sharia courts in the UK are purely for arbitration purposes and have very little difference between regular arbitrator procedures.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...urts-ban-would-harm-British-Muslim-women.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/muslim-scare-stories-media-halal-sharia-niqab

Yeah drum up more muslim scare stories buddy.

Of all the Muslim threats, this seems the most potent. It actually has "sharia" in the name. UK law has some scope to acknowledge the customary or religious laws of both Jews and Muslims. But going by the coverage, it would seem it is only Muslims that have both demanded and been granted exception. On closer inspection, it is clear sharia courts only have jurisdiction on civil matters and everyone must opt in to a sharia court. They only have an advisory capacity and address mainly property and financial matters, and rulings are then only enforceable by civil courts. In many cases, they are understaffed affairs, where one official settles petty disputes and draws up rudimentary documents.

So sharia courts aren't really enforceable and are only advisory. Yeah muslims dominating everything.

Nein! Die Juden ist taken over our the UK! Achtung Australia!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7233040.stm

British Jews, particularly the orthodox, will frequently turn to their own religious courts, the Beth Din, to resolve civil disputes, covering issues as diverse as business and divorce.

Yes we must keep the blood line pure in Australia, you should join the kool kids klub.

Yeah so many muslim extremists everywhere!

Or is this the future you want to see

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

What's wrong with a bunch of people praying? Do you bitch and moan about catholics going to Mass or people going to church every sunday?

 

[jdennis]

Fuck you.... many of the refugees are economic slackers that actually trash the place....

Your resort to insults and swearing suggests you don't actually have a real argument or any evidence to support your claim.

But please, prove me wrong! Surely it would be easy for you to reference one or two papers backing up your assertion. I wouldn't dare think that you've come to that conclusion purely on the basis of racism, fear and prejudice!