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Yes, I did jump the gun, I assumed you were implying cause=purpose. Not that it is a vile assumption to make, given the Christian paradigm loves to start with an "argument from design" etc and then make the illogical leap to assuming positivistic elements about a creator- that "he" loves us, can...

"Dawkins himself, in a book meaningfully titled River out of Eden (1995) addresses the issue squarely, uncompromisingly, and without pulling any punches. For a start, Dawkins argues that part of the problem with the question of the meaning of life comes not from life or from evolution (not...

Sup? Haha Nah I'm off to bed but hmm, perhaps use the word love not god then just saves all da confusion yea

anecdotal (testimonial) evidence - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com I do also suggest you research the psychological literature (peer-reviewed, critically tested) on the nature of human belief itself, its cognitive structure and origins. Why not also youtube the Derren Brown...

haha well it worked, but it comes up "neutral" which means you havent got enough rep points to actually have a weighting. Keep up the good thoughts and they'll flow quick enough. Anyway, This has been another night of "Cookies classic hits". good times, good night.

lol, therefore you should be a socialist (didn't think he ever disclosed his political leaning)

haha cheers, I was talking to Iron though (not to be rude) and yes, i guess it does.

Gotta say but Iron, you ended up reducing your position quite a bit in light of the logic. If your just gonna contend that its a personal relationship, no proof necessary only about love/good deeds, not gonna condemn ppl and claim absolute truths (which extend to material truths) like much of...

lol good times, good times Its annoying, i can never rep you I need to "spread it around" y doesnt it come up that for you when u rep me?

Oh just for humour- The "Funky" proof for atheism: 1) Kfunk is an atheist. 2) Kfunk is smarter then all of us. 3) Therefore, we should seek to follow his opinion on intelligent issues. 4) Therefore, we should be atheists.

Peace out woo *So we blow up buildings over personal relationships? lol

This probably should have went into the "Does god Exist" thread. Also, note that if you hold a theistic word view, it appears logically impossible to actually hold any "absolute truth". If the universe is not self-contained, ie an all-powerful entity sits outside of time and can intervene at...

I also bet you've never done any wide reading. Check out religion as an evolutionary concept. "Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon" by Daniel Dennet is a great place to start. Basically, the need to explain the unknown is our earliest attempts at philosophy/science. Its...

Dude your the one getting apologetic and bringing your "faith" into question. Psychologically I would actually say that shows doubt, although you would never admit it. But watevs, I have nothing to "convert" you too- its your burden to prove something as I've shown. How many times also do...

so you would answer, because "there is a god" then the little inquisitor goes, why is there a god? ... ... I can see you finding yourself in the same situation. Yes, we don't know everything. But see, as I said atheism is rejecting the notions Christianity has put forward about...

lol I'm not burying anything. I think you at least see the logic in my statement. Note, I wouldn't need the term "atheist" if religion did not exist. It is an interdependent concept- it only has contextual meaning within a religious framework, given its simply a reply to the religious...

I already agree with your distinction between philosophy/science, but certainly one could concede that scientific discoveries can aid philosophy as they give us truth boundaries. Also, I'm skeptical at your sharp criticism of the word "why". I think in many cases "why" and "how" overlap...

It's pretty stupid Iron. All this "why" begging I can see is attempting to derive God from first cause. I'm wondering then how your going to stop me asking "why" questions about god if it’s such an important universal concept. Christians arrogantly want you to ask "why why why" and receive...

I see an infinite regression. Also, as I'm trying to demonstrate, atheism is a statement in regards to a proposition. I don't see how it at all precludes "why" questions.

Review my hypothesis test. I don't need to "dismiss" it. Its a proposition which violates our natural thought. Think about if I moved to a new planet (its easier then imagining Earth). On planet Y they believe in a giant platypus god. There are fables about him, people are in a personal...