a question about extract 5 for ext (1 Viewer)

[cranberries]

Hey guys,

I was just looking at the 2003 paper for marius, and got stuck on the first question

it's extract 5 and it goes:

‘Ce type… Il a plus… assez de musique dans le coeur… pour faire danser sa vie.’
Explain the significance of this quotation.

ok, so is Justin making a point about the way Marius has handled the car crash? or is he just trying to teach dede something? or...

I have no idea- help please?

 

[chepas]

I'd go with the former.

The fact that we are shown and told so little about Marius' life in the film makes it a bit hard too. We know that already in the film here that there was that falling out between Jeannette and Marius because he stopped coming/ lies etc..

This quotation is indicative of what Marius must be feeling like emotionally. We know that he has sort of 'split up' from Jeannette, by not seeing her anymore, and lots of uncertainty hangs over the characters. From the rest of this extract we learn that Marius had a wife and kids and that they were killed in a car crash. In extract 4 we see Marius getting agitated by the children precariously playing on the crane ("Oh putain les gosses. Y vont tomber!"). Perhaps that Marius is depressed and still mourning the loss of his former wife and children, and this has prevented him from feeling close to Jeannette and her kids, as they remind him too much of his own. Therefore, because he can't love them (as still mourning), he just can't, at this point, recommit - therefore if we translate the "music" as this love and "faire danser la vie" as loving the new family (ie Jeannette and her kids) it explains that he doesn't have enough love left for in his heart to love them.

This is just how I interpret it so far. I hate extract five with a passion and am so glad that they did it last year, so it's impossible for them to do it this year!!!

If memory serves me correctly this is only a 2 mark question yes?

 

[cranberries]

Ooh, good answer!!!

so recap, would the answer go something like this:

The significance of this quotation is based on Justin's interpretation of Marius' incapacity to love due to the tragedy that has occured in his past. The employment of the phrase ' faire danser sa vie' highlights the magnitude of what his emotions forbid him from experiencing.ie. forming a family with Jeannette. Hence the quotation pinpoints the emotional vacuum in Marius' life while relating it to his recent separation with Jeannette.

Do you reckon that's enough for two points?

And do you really spell the plural of Marius as Marius'?

God, my teacher has taught me crap!

But anyway, chepas, what extract do you think it's going to be? I hope it's, hmm, what is there again? there's the one on the strike, the one with the kids, the one with magali's decision, the really long one with the nice lunch and this one.....ok, i hope it's the strike one, and then the empathy could be something like, write about monique's views on dedes decision not to strike. Yes, that's what I'm hopin it'll be Nice and easy

Thanks for your answer!!!

 

[chepas]

Yeah that seems cool. But make sure you highlight and mention what the tragedy was. It's really a matter of spelling the obvious out, and use relevent examples of the text.

(Yeah it is Marius', it's not plural though, it just shows position, as Marius 'owns' the incapacity. (The genitive I think it's called. The incapacity of Marius, Marius' incapacity, Jane's horse, Marius' horse. It's just so that in English if a word ends in an 's', the apostrophe that indicates posession goes after the s.))

We talked about this a lot in the last French Ext class day at OHS, and the teacher seems pretty adamant that extract 5 is out, and something else that was already done will be out, as well as the one in the 2001 specimen paper (I forget which). By under no cirumstances take this as Moses handing down god's word but maybe extract 4, the sequence when they have the picnic in the cimenterie. But don't take my word for it! I'll go through the past papers and see what one's they've done and list them here, so we can see and try to work out a trend...

 

[cranberries]

Wasn't it awful last year when they did the question about handicapped teenagers? My teacher crapped on for so long about what a limited question that was but then again, she craps on about everything...hmmm

The factory scene's not too bad, we got the scene before it, where they're making the aioli for our trial, it was ok- what did you get?

French extension will be our last exam..isn't that sad? can you believe that it's all going to be over soon, and five years from now we'll be like ' Marius and who?'

 

[chepas]

LOL Marius and who.. Hehe..

We got Extract 4, when Magali tells Jeannette she's moving to Paris.

I like the aioli bit. Actually that's my favourite bit in the whole movie. I love the bit at the end where Caroline lights up a ciggy, Dédé goes "Passe-moi une cigare" and she goes "Non. Je la garde", in that straightfoward blunt way she does, then everyone pisses themselves. It's funny and so happy and jolly, you can't help but laughing too .

 

[cranberries]

<sigh> I should go to sleep but if we're talking favorite bits in m&j...

I like it when marius tells the kids to get off the crane and they hold each others hands <the kids> it's so sweet!

I also like how the girl wears overalls with nothing underneath - ooh la la!

buuutttt, I HATE the part after m&j have had sex and they show his naked butt- soooo didn't want to see that!

 

[chepas]

Lol. If you don't want to see his butt, you should see this move "Marie-Jos et ses deux amours" - exact same actors - "Marius" and "Jeannette" are in it as a couple (but not same characters), and you see a lot more of them, and lets just leave it at that... but that's just judging on the trailer.

 

[cranberries]

ew. just ew. i mean, he seems like a nice guy and all but....<cough> anyway, onto other things!

I've watched 'La ville est tranquille' and they're all in it again- have you seen it? They don't really show it (thank god) but Jeannette gets it on with dede- it's kinda weird!

 

[chepas]

Lol... Well that's what you get when you're, in the case of "Jeannette", are the wife of the director, and if you are "Marius", "Dédé" etc, you keep using your mates... I found out that Ariane Ascaride is actually Guédiguian's wife, and that a lot of the characters are old uni friends... hence the endless people resurrections in his movies.

I wouldn't mind seeing some more of his films actually. Apparently "La vie est tranquille" is the very antithesis of M+J, because M+J is relatively happy and shows the Marseille life in a pretty carefree manner, whereas this movie is a bit on the sadder, badder side of Marseille... ??

 

[cranberries]

Yeah, my teacher told us that at the beginning, how they just get together and make movies, and it's like one big party (woohoo!)

Yes, La vie est tranquille paints a completely different picture of Marseille, I think it was concentrated in L'Estaque as well, I can't really remember. For example, 'Jeannette' is poor, (as expected), works at the fish markets, has really bad bleached blonde hair and a drug addicted prostitute daughter, and a little grand-daughter! Well, it goes like her daughter suffers continual withdrawal but can't afford to pay for more drugs so Jeannette, works as hooker, specifically with Dede, who's lonely taxi-driver...and it goes on! With Justin and Caroline as Dede's parents and Marius as this 'rich' kinda, shady guy with drug connections and stuff.

The film does concentrate on the darker aspects of Marseille, it shows all the hookers trying to make a living, the depression that stems from unemployment, the deeper problems with strikes and politics (as opposed to dede and monique's little spat) and also the racism and general intolerance amongst the polpulation.

Gosh, look how much you made me write! If only this was our prescribed film...i guess they thought it was too much for us...there is a lot of ugly, ugly nudity and it might be MA.. not sure

 

[chepas]

Hehe. You could use that in your essay response, you know. These films are all with the realism in the society in France in Marseille, and so they expose all the groups (SDF, BCBG, ABCD etc) and the issues (B vs A, Coping, T of D), so make an example of Guédiguian and all his work...

Sounds like an interesting film actually... might look into it after Nov 12...