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Hi y'all,

Was listening to the radio today and some guy was blabbing on about the importance of Australian values, how crucial it was to stick to them, how unique they were, etc.

So just wondering, in your opinion, what are the quintessential Australian values? How important are they? Do we stick to them? And, lastly, are they really that unique?
 

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have a go

fair dinkum

take a joke you larrikan

shitty accent

hot salty yeasty vegemite

barbecues

alcohol

sheilas

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What kind of thread is this?

but yeah aside from your standard set of western values, we do apparently have some different and unique ones, the normal ones might just be expressed differently and we also order some things in terms of importance different to other countries.... a good example is education, Austalians value education a fair bit more than your standard western country. We are probably more caring for our fellow man on average, a good example for that is the charity we give and the fact that we have free medicine.

Its really hard to comment on this as an insider because ive had nothing to compare it to, but some internationals have said we do some things a bit different, some of those are good and some are just plain backwards [just like everything i suppose] but we arent a total cultural vaccum as some people seem to think.
 

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fair go for the fair skinned
 

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Turnbull(like ages ago ) said something about aussie values which for the first time attracted me to the concept. I'll try and paraphrase it to the best of my recollections.

Australians are a people who know they are not perfect. We expect we will do things from time that we will regret and we expect no more from our neighbours than we do ourselves.

Whilst in the heat of the moment we can turn into people we would rather not be, in the light of day we don't like these things to escalate. Long, bitter rows where one endeavours to make life for a rival consistantly unpleasent is not becoming of an Australian. Call it pretending nothing ever happened if you will but you are missrepresenting it, in Australia we appreciate and value so many of the wonderful things life offers us to be swept up in bitterness and hatred.

It has become almost iconic for an Australian to be found sharing a beer with someone whom just days ago he insulted. In other cultures such squabbles frequently escalate into fatal exchanges, ripping apart the lives of all those around. It is frankly considered unAustralian to spoil so much of this great life we have here over bitter squabbling.
 

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Turnbull(like ages ago ) said something about aussie values which for the first time attracted me to the concept. I'll try and paraphrase it to the best of my recollections.

Australians are a people who know they are not perfect. We expect we will do things from time that we will regret and we expect no more from our neighbours than we do ourselves.

Whilst in the heat of the moment we can turn into people we would rather not be, in the light of day we don't like these things to escalate. Long, bitter rows where one endeavours to make life for a rival consistantly unpleasent is not becoming of an Australian. Call it pretending nothing ever happened if you will but you are missrepresenting it, in Australia we appreciate and value so many of the wonderful things life offers us to be swept up in bitterness and hatred.

It has become almost iconic for an Australian to be found sharing a beer with someone whom just days ago he insulted. In other cultures such squabbles frequently escalate into fatal exchanges, ripping apart the lives of all those around. It is frankly considered unAustralian to spoil so much of this great life we have here over bitter squabbling.
i like it. +1
even if it was proven untrue
 

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It has become almost iconic for an Australian to be found sharing a beer with someone whom just days ago he insulted. In other cultures such squabbles frequently escalate into fatal exchanges, ripping apart the lives of all those around.
Muslims do that in the middle east and also Muslims who live in the west.
 

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i think one would be an understanding of others, im not totally sure, not knowing any other way, but we seem to be very accepting of other people =]
 

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i think some aussy value of out metropoletan sydney is being racist bastard that is all they can do.


and only contribute with crappy stuff like damper, ethnic cleaning, ned kelly the crimnal.

whyle scientist like kelvin and friends make better contribute.
only recently the fred hollows and friends made good contribution to australia.
 

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i think imo that uncle is rite
aussies are racist sumtimes but its not always their fault its because some lebs r not nice and so the assuie heroes hav to respond to them and the only way 2 respond to violentc is through being mnean to all its liek george w bush when he attacked all the musluim countries because of onyl a few and that solved the terroiskm oproblem we need to stop terroosm basically
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Is there such a thing as Aussie values?

I mean, take the fair go for instance. Its not as though Australians are the only people in the world who know about the idea of a fair go. In fact, its a fairly simple moral truism: equality, or at least universality. So we're not exactly unique on that one.

Furthermore, suggesting that this country has some unique set of values begs for generalisation and possibly pigeonholing. Does everyone in this country believe in the idea of a fair go? Of course not. In that case, are they somehow 'un-Australian'? No again, due to the aforementioned fact that it is more of a moral truism than a 'national value'. But what if someone did think of the fair go as a national value? May I present, ladies and gentlemen, Pauline Hanson. Or that crazy woman from Camden whose name I've forgotten. Either way, they're going on about how various groups in our society may not represent Australian national culture, which is clearly divisive swill.

People like these will try to reduce everything down to good and bad. Australian values = good. Lebanese = bad because they do not conform to Australian values, and therefore we should deport them, or whatever. But perhaps we should not be so quick to enshrine our so-called cultural values. They did not intrinsically exist inside each convict in the First Fleet, but instead evolved due to the way of life etc. of those people. In the same way, one should expect that those national values (if there are any) continue to evolve with Australia's cultural makeup, and not the other way around.

Having been to many countries around the world, I have noticed little difference between the people I meet there and the people I meet here. In the end, we are all just people. Even if we consider ourselves to be Australians, or Japanese or whoever, we are people first and then nationalities second. So approach cultural values with a more open mind, don't nominalise, and remember that being 'Australian' is whatever you make it.
 

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In my opinion, Australian values are:
*taking sick days
*Going to the local park on Australia day, showing your patrioticness, prefferably decked out in red white and blue, or green and gold.
*Standing up for what you believe in
*Speaking out about social and political issues which are against your own moral values.
*"Solid Rock" by Goanna is a song that you know just because.
*Accepting people for who they are, not where they've come from, then when they fuck us over and try to take over Australia, then we all stand as one to take a stance against them, this isn't directed at any race in particular, just generalising.

All the above posts that are associated with discrimination are pathetic. Times have changed, regardless of where people have come from. We need to remember that these people come over from foregin countries that are experienceing wars, and genocide, we need to welcome them with open arms. If they decide to bring aspects of they're culture over then thats the way its gonna be.
 

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how does this work?

how can you not be responsible for racism you perpetrate?
My Grandad grew up in England during WW2 and has fought in the Korean War. He has prejudices and perhaps racism towards the Germans, Japanese, sometimes Italians, and the North Koreans. I don't think this is entirely his fault, it was the way he was raised, the time he grew up in and the experiences he has had. But he doesn't put his views on other people. I think we have to remember that generations before us grew up in a totally different time, and still carry values from those times.

But back to the OP, I think being Australian is respecting your elders, that's what I was taught by some of the Aboriginals.
 

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I don't feel like being sarcastic.
My view is that as Australians we do believe in 'fair go mate'.
We don't like pretentious people. A persons worth is generally determined by their character and conduct, not their family history/money. I think we're compassionate and optimistic.
 
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Yeah I think you're right about the family/money thing. We seem to be less focussed on class than in, say, Britain. Apparently it's because of how we started as a country, because when the first settlers came, the Marines etc were pretty much the same as the convicts in that they were in a foreign country and just wanted to go home, and they were all forced to work together.
 

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I don't feel like being sarcastic.
My view is that as Australians we do believe in 'fair go mate'.
We don't like pretentious people. A persons worth is generally determined by their character and conduct, not their family history/money. I think we're compassionate and optimistic.
No. This "fair go aussies are so kind" bullshit is just a massive generalization, we are no different than people in any other country. Except for maybe Muslims.
 

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