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I'm writing a prac report on comparing the reactivities of alkanes and alkenes but I was away for the prac so I'm kinda stuck on writing the experiment

can anyone help with with some information about what I need to write?

Like implication and application?

thanks in advance...
 

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well i think the prac for that is the bromine water one
alkenes react readily, discolouring the bromine water as they have the reactive double bond
alkanes only react in the presence of UV light
dont know about implication or application though
 

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starryXnite said:
I'm writing a prac report on comparing the reactivities of alkanes and alkenes but I was away for the prac so I'm kinda stuck on writing the experiment

can anyone help with with some information about what I need to write?

Like implication and application?

thanks in advance...
Aim: to compare the reactivities of alkanes and alkenes.

Hyopthesis: alkenes are more reactive due to an electron dense double bond.

Materials/method:
1) Use cyclohexane and cyclohexene.
2) Equal 1mL quantities of each hydrocarbon in seperate test tubes.
3) Cover test tubes in aluminium.
4) Add 3-4 drops of bromine water to each test tube.
5) Stopper and shake test tubes.
6) Remove foil, examine liquids.
7) Pour contents of tubes into organic waste bottles.

Justification of prodecure:
> Straight chained compounds are highly toxic, hence cyclic compounds are used.
> Liquids are used to more easily view changes.
> Alkanes can react in U.V light with halogens, hence aluminium foil is used around test tubes.

Risks:
> Bromine: harmful and highly corrosive --> carry out in fume cupboard, wash hands after use.
> Hydrocarbons: highly flammable --> keep away from naked flames, toxic by skin absorption and inhalation --> carry out in fume cupboard and wash hands after use.

Controls:
> Same quantities of hydrocarbons.
> Same amount of bromine water for each test tube.
> Same waiting time for each test tube.

Results/observations:
> The cyclohexene decolourised the bromine water i.e. reacted with the bromine.

Conclusion:
> The experimental results suggest that alkenes are more reactive then alkenes.
> This supports the hypothesis.

Issues of accuracy/reliability/validity:
> Accurate? Yes. Experimental data mirrors theoretical data.
> Reliable? Yes. All groups got the same results.
> Valid? Yes. Accurate, reliable, controlled.

Improvements to method/appartus:
> Use a range of different alkanes and alkenes to show the reactivity test applies to all alkanes and alkenes.
 

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I can send you my prac if you want. PM me your email.
 

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bored of sc said:
> Straight chained compounds are highly toxic, hence cyclic compounds are used.
Straight chains are also gases, which aren't suitable for this experiment. Bored of SC says the rest.
 

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JasonNg1025 said:
Straight chains are also gases, which aren't suitable for this experiment. Bored of SC says the rest.
Not necessarily. At room temperature (25oC),
when n≥5, CH3(CH2)nCH3 is liquid, and for straight chained alkenes, n≥2 makes CH2=CH(CH2)nCH3 liquid.

So, technically pentane/pentene are both liquids at room temperature, but they are more volatile, thus they still vapourise, which could cause health hazards.
Our school initially refused hexane/hexene as a model, but later accepted it. Why shouldn't they? Hexane/hexene are both liquids with boiling point fairly high when compared to the room temperature.
But to be safe, use cyclohexane/cyclohexene... They have an even higher boiling point.
 

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Oh... volatile, gases, same thing :p
I have a feeling that you're increasingly posting to prove me wrong :p
But that's a good thing... I often need correction
 

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The main reasons of using cyclohexene and cyclohexane are:
>colourless
>liquid at room temperature and not as volatile as other common liquid hydrocarbons.

plus in ua risk assessment u should note down that cyclohexene and cyclohexane should not be disposed off directly in the drain as they do not mix with water. They have a potential risk and as they are also volatile disposing them off in the sink has another risk.
 

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Cychlohexene and ane are used b/c they are more stable than the linear hexene and ane.

Bromine water is slight corrosive and toxic if ingested.
hex/ane/ene are also toxic if ingested.

Carry exp under fume cupboard.

Cychlohexane test tube reacted slowly due to UV from environment.

Lolz i was just testing myself to see wat i could remember
 

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In the prac described above, they don't get access to UV. We did it differently, we let it sunbake to see if it works :D
 

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JasonNg1025 said:
Oh... volatile, gases, same thing :p
I have a feeling that you're increasingly posting to prove me wrong :p
But that's a good thing... I often need correction
o.o

No, I've got nothing against you =O
I just tend to correct whatever I see as wrong =\

You're a cool guy xD
 

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Lol, that's why I've got a :p at the end
I know you've got nothing against me :D it's just that you're always the one to pick up mistakes, which I appreciate
 

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xD Glad you took no offence. It'd be infinitely worse to write the wrong thing on the exam day than on the forum, right? xD

Not many people come here anymore though =\ so I guess that's why it's always me.
 

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adnan91 said:
Cychlohexene and ane are used b/c they are more stable than the linear hexene and ane.

Bromine water is slight corrosive and toxic if ingested.
hex/ane/ene are also toxic if ingested.

Carry exp under fume cupboard.

Cychlohexane test tube reacted slowly due to UV from environment.

Lolz i was just testing myself to see wat i could remember
Woot! I've been trying to figure out the name of this piece of crap for agessss now, at least 3 weeks haha. Thanks man, the other safety precautions were ones i werent aware of too.
 

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adnan91 said:
Cychlohexene and ane are used b/c they are more stable than the linear hexene and ane
We used hexane and 1-hexene in addition to cyclohexane and cyclohexene.
 

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can you plz help me to find a diagram of the following:
button cells
mercury cells
lithium cells
vanadium redox cells
gratzel cell
thank you.
 

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sumsum said:
can you plz help me to find a diagram of the following:
button cells
mercury cells
lithium cells
vanadium redox cells
gratzel cell
thank you.
wrong thread i believe...and there is something we call Google Images. Comes in handy once in a while.
 

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What ^ said.
Google Images is probably one of the best things invented on Earth.

By the way, you don't need to learn all of those above. You only need to do one of them, and one of either lead-acid cell or dry cell.
 

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