Originally posted by Daedalus
ok which part of my post is FALSE? and why is it FALSE? if any is false that means my friend is a liar, and y would he lie?
You don't seem to understand. You haven't given anything to back up your statements, so why should we believe you over everyone else in this forum, as well as the colleges (and by extension the UNIVERSITIES) themselves?
Originally posted by Daedalus
ok, i agree that not everyone can be accepted cause there isnt enouhg room. But y discrimiate based on answers such as "why do u want to live in a college"? what if i answered "cause i dont want to live on the street"?
Give an example of discrimination based on this question. I personally queried this question on both my college application forms, and was told that they use it to judge the type of person they are admitting. They have every right to do this, because they are responsible for the wellbeing of students living at the college, and must therefore ensure that people who have ideals incongruous with the needs of other students are not admitted. The needs of the student body are far more important than the expectations of the few who are rejected.
Originally posted by Daedalus
um...if u live in your own house u wont get fined for making noise... the only way u would get into trouble for noise is that if u made it excessively, so much so that neighbours (who are in different houses) can hear it and complain. In college any little bit of noise will pass into the next room.
In your own house are there alcohol bans? Are there curfews? Are there supervisors?
Have you not realised that there is simply no comparuson between living in college and living at home? Your parents do not own a residential college! You are living as a tenant in an independent housing unit, a commercial service provided by a seperate entity. You are living there as a customer, not a family member. You need to realise that the comparison should really be with RENTAL PROPERTY to understand where they are coming from. In rental properties (especially apartments) there are definitely sound restrictions. Consult any rental contract and it will be bleedingly obvious. As for the "in your own house..." comment, yes, many parents impose strict rules on curfew and alcohol. Your PARENTS are the supervisors, and if your parents have never had restrictive rules regarding your behaviour then I am worried for you.
Originally posted by Daedalus
ah, diverse backgrounds. doesnt that mean it shoud try to include a diverse range of ppl, such as quiet ppl, loud ppl, ppl who study, ppl who dont, alcoholics, ppl who dont drink, religious ppl, atheists, ppl with extreme apathy and dont contribute to anything, sporty ppl, ppl who sleep all day etc etc
is this true? do they include this diversity? The form seems to filter out all but 1 type of person. Is this diversity?
The fundamental purpose of residential colleges is to provide lodging for students of university. Hence, if there are lodgers who will DISRUPT the studies (what everyone is there for after all) of other lodgers then I see it as perfectly legitimate that they are excluded. You can't expect people who are PAYING to live on campus to put up with people preventing a healthy student lifestyle, including both leisure and study.
You mentioned loud people and alcoholics? These are certainly admitted, though I sincerely hope they are swiftly ejected. They have no place living in such close proximity to people who want to do some work. However, you also mentioned the various ranges of interest (sport, religion, contribution to college life, study) and those who do or do not. Have you walked into a college? Or, did your friend say that any of these people are NOT included? Because if you believe that colleges exclude any of the above I seriously doubt you have ever come into contact with them at all.
Originally posted by Daedalus
Not allowed to use outside ISP. Internet is 4.4c/mb!!!
$2000 fine.
Why should I refute what you have yet to prove? Give some evidence of these things (and indeed anything you have said) and then we'll have more than just your friend's potentially tainted word to go by. Find me the documentation that states what the college charges for internet access, or that students may not find their own ISP, or that they may be fined such amounts.
edit: I am interested to find out what your friend (whose monthly phone bill is $50) is actually charged for. The university phones (including college phones) are all hooked up to the Telstra network, like any other in their respective suburbs (Kensington, Kingsford, Camperdown, Darlington etc) and are hence charged normal call fees. Perhaps your friend makes 200 local calls a month, because (at local call rate $0.25 per call) this is all it would take to hit $50. That's only around 6 calls a day, which is not too unreasonable for a university student. If they make calls outside Sydney, or to information services, their bill jumps significantly.
