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BAGHDAD, Iraq -
Saddam Hussein had been dead nine days but his voice resounded through the courtroom Monday as he and his cousin "Chemical Ali" discussed killing thousands of Kurds in the 1980s, according to audiotapes played at their war crimes trial.

Saddam's physical presence was gone — his chair in the white metal pen where the defendants sit was empty — but his aura still hung over the proceedings against his former regime members.

The trial reconvened for the first time since Dec. 21 and a little more than a week since Saddam was hanged for the killing of 148 Shiites after an assassination attempt in the town of Dujail in 1982.

Meanwhile, new video of Saddam's corpse shortly after the hanging was posted on the Internet. It showed a gaping wound on Saddam's neck, with his head unnaturally twisted at a 90 degree angle to his right.

The video appeared to have been taken with a camera phone, like the graphic video of the hanging which showed guards taunting Saddam in the final moments of his life.

The court's first order of business Monday was to dismiss all charges against Saddam. His co-defendants — including his cousin Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali" — remain in the dock for allegedly killing 180,000 Kurds in the 1980s as
Iraq fought a protracted war with
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Prosecutor Munqith al-Faroon aired graphic video during Monday's court session of scores of bodies in trucks and in piles on the street, overlaid with a voice purported to be that of al-Majid saying, "I will hit them with chemical weapons."

"Damn the international community if they say anything. I will strike them all with chemical weapons," the voice continued.

Another audiotape had a voice identified as Saddam's warning, "These weapons are only used at my orders." He also reassured colleagues that the weapons "kill by the thousands."

"It will force them out of their homes without water or food. It makes them evacuate their homes naked," the voice said.

In court, Al-Majid described the video as "painful," but said it showed the work of Iranian troops, not Iraqis. As for the audio, al-Majid did not deny the voices were his and Saddam's.

The tapes "not only condemn me, but the whole path that I was part of — the path of Saddam Hussein," al-Majid said.

Legal experts said they hoped Saddam's six co-defendants would be more forthcoming with the dictator no longer listening.

Legal scholar Tariq Harb said the trial could make more progress without Saddam, who sometimes quietly glared at witnesses, shouted at them, or launched nationalists tirades that got him thrown out of court.

"The trial will be more elastic and easy. It will clarify and expose more facts because Saddam Hussein's disappearance from the dock will encourage other defendants to mention some facts that they were afraid to divulge when he was with them," Harb said.

Also Monday, the U.S. military announced the deaths of two more American soldiers: one from combat wounds in Salahuddin province, which includes Saddam's hometown, and another from small-arms fire north of Baghdad.

And the White House said
President Bush would lay out his new approach for the Iraq war in a speech Wednesday. Bush was expected to announce an increase of as many as 20,000 U.S. troops in a bid to contain sectarian warfare.

Iraqi police, meanwhile, reported the discovery of 27 tortured bodies in the capital and the deaths of 23 other people, including nine Shiite workers gunned down in a minibus on their way to the Baghdad airport.

Aside from al-Majid, the co-defendants in the so-called Anfal trial are former Defense Minister Sultan Hashim al-Tai, who was the commander of Task Force Anfal and head of the Iraqi army 1st Corps; Sabir al-Douri, Saddam's military intelligence chief; Taher Tawfiq al-Ani, former governor of Mosul and head of the Northern Affairs Committee; Hussein Rashid Mohammed, former deputy director of operations for the Iraqi armed forces and Farhan Mutlaq Saleh, former head of military intelligence's eastern regional office.

When al-Majid first took his seat in court Monday, he tried to turn on his microphone to speak publicly. The judge quickly shut it off.

Before the trial adjourned until Jan. 11, Al-Faroon also presented a document allegedly signed by al-Ani, calling for the execution of 10 members of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the party headed by current Iraqi President Jalal Talabani. Al-Ani denied the handwriting was his.

"This is not my signature and I'm sure of that," he told the court.
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Saddams execution caused about another 90 Shitties to be hanged.. :headbang:

Iraq is fucked up thanks to the americans.
 

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HotShot said:
Saddams execution caused about another 90 Shitties to be hanged.. :headbang:

Iraq is fucked up thanks to the americans.
It's fucked up because Iraqis are still living in medieval times with their sectarian bs. The only thing that kept the lid on the shiite/sunni split during saddam's time was his highly oppressive regime.
 

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In court, Al-Majid described the video as "painful," but said it showed the work of Iranian troops, not Iraqis. As for the audio, al-Majid did not deny the voices were his and Saddam's.


BULLSHIT, pathetic idiots always shifting blame to Iran, same as what Saddam said in his final speech (basically all the last years events are the fault of Iran rofl, what a bastard)
 

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mr EaZy said:
no, it was the fact that he had a government

now there is no government because a government is a body that governs and is not just a building in the middle of canberra or bagdad or rome
LOL "governs" is a polite word for what Saddam did. You mean the extensive security services, the extensive restrictions on freedom and the savage responses to any kind of dissent were just part of "governing". Iraq can only be held together by someone who's a psycho like Saddam.
 

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Exphate said:
There is a government - democratic elections took place and all :)



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Just because it isn't working, doesn't mean it is non-existant.

I say, split it in two - Sunnis in the North, Shi'ite in the South - with Baghdad a green zone, governed by an International peace keeping force. Much like Vietnam and Germany (East/West), but make it work this time.
If it doesnt work - it pretty much doesnt exist. You are better off accepting that it doesnt work! Rather than pretending it exists and it works.
 
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HotShot said:
Saddams execution caused about another 90 Shitties to be hanged.. :headbang:

Iraq is fucked up thanks to the americans.
Iraq has always been 'fucked up'.
It was held together by Hussein's government, which, however brutal and oppresive did manage to stave off the collapse. The fact that its all gone to shit is mostly because it was inevitable. Whether America invaded iraq, or someone initiated a coup from inside, dictators don't last forever and as soon as Saddam was gone Iraq would have imploded.
This way, you get to blame America for something that would have happened eventually.

Sunni and Shiite Iraqi's, Palestinians, Israelites, they are all moronic peasants, even their governments wouldn't be capable of running a PTA meeting, let alone a country. They are idiots, fighting over tiny differences in a story book.
 

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