Doing a double major (1 Viewer)

[Haku]

how much work is it to actually do a double major in bcom and a single major in bsci under the double degree Bcom/Bsci. Would employers look into the double majors or just ur degrees.

EDIT: Why is it not possible to do a double major in Commerce under the combined degree of Bcom/Bsc at NSW

 

[stazi]

how much work is it to actually do a double major in bcom and a single major in bsci under the double degree Bcom/Bsci. Would employers look into the double majors or just ur degrees.

EDIT: Why is it not possible to do a double major in Commerce under the combined degree of Bcom/Bsc at NSW

Actually I think what NSW are saying is that you can't do a 'double major' as in you can't do a 'double major in accounting' (One subject). This is what doing extra units in a particular subject used to be called. USYD also had this name, but this has now been changed to an 'extended major'.
Employers look at majors more than the degree. Of course, degree comes into play, but majors are very important.

 

[Haku]

can u do a major and a minor under the unsw Bcom/Bsci, or two majors in different disciplines under the bcom degree. it saves one yr which is really tempting. and Bcom(lib) won't get u a science major, but will it get a arts major?

 

[stazi]

can u do a major and a minor under the unsw Bcom/Bsci. it saves one yr which is really tempting. and Bcom(lib) won't get u a science major, but will it get a arts major?

I guess you could.
Com lib will get you an arts major.

Also note that employers don't care about unrelated majors.

(e.g. if you've got a B Commerce degree majoring in accounting, and someone has a b commerce degree majoring in accounting and philosophy, I doubt the latter person will have an advantage).

 

[adamsaclown]

actually no, I think you can only do a single major in Science and a single major in Commerce (not sure about minors), in UNSW's Sci/Comm course, because it only gives you 192 credit points (4 years) between the two degrees. Thats the main reason I chose Usyd, because of the extra 48cp, even if it means an extra year.

That said, I'm pretty sure the program coordinators would consider bending some program rules for very good students: "At the discretion of the program authority, variations to course requirements within individual programs may be approved. "

 

[stazi]

actually no, I think you can only do a single major in Science and a single major in Commerce (not sure about minors), in UNSW's Sci/Comm course, because it only gives you 192 credit points (4 years) between the two degrees. Thats the main reason I chose Usyd, because of the extra 48cp, even if it means an extra year.

That said, I'm pretty sure the program coordinators would consider bending some program rules for very good students: "At the discretion of the program authority, variations to course requirements within individual programs may be approved. "

International business major: 36cp
Marketing major: 48cp
Science major: 60cp
60+48+36 < 200+cp

 

[adamsaclown]

+ 36cp core units still < 192. you've got me there.


They (both UNSW and USyd, who both explictly mention the structure of two majors within their straight B. Com program, but make absolutely no mention of it in their combined programs) really should make their descriptions of the rules for double degrees clearer, it makes it very confusing for people trying to decide what course to do.

 

[§eraphim]

Actually I think what NSW are saying is that you can't do a 'double major' as in you can't do a 'double major in accounting' (One subject). This is what doing extra units in a particular subject used to be called. USYD also had this name, but this has now been changed to an 'extended major'.
Employers look at majors more than the degree. Of course, degree comes into play, but majors are very important.

At UNSW

- there is no equivalent of an extended major.

- you do a normal single major in each degree (1 in Commerce, 1 in Science).

Double majors only apply to general 3-yr degrees. The double major means 7 subjects in 2 fields (eg. Accounting & Finance) = 7 x 2 subjects = 14 subjects = 14 x 6uoc = 42uoc.

A single major is 8 subjects in 1 field. Commerce/Science requires you tp do a single major in a field from Science and a field from Commerce. eg 8 subjects in Maths, 8 subjects in Finance.

With your electives, if you can manage to fit in another major, it may get recognised but it usually doesn't fit as science subjects rake up a lot your degree. Getting another Commerce major is usually out of the questoin. I've only ever know ppl doing COmmerce /Science who have added a stats major to their maths major (or vice versa) as the core subjects are the same. This probably doesn't apply to other areas.

 

[§eraphim]

actually no, I think you can only do a single major in Science and a single major in Commerce (not sure about minors), in UNSW's Sci/Comm course, because it only gives you 192 credit points (4 years) between the two degrees. Thats the main reason I chose Usyd, because of the extra 48cp, even if it means an extra year.

That said, I'm pretty sure the program coordinators would consider bending some program rules for very good students: "At the discretion of the program authority, variations to course requirements within individual programs may be approved. "

At UNSW, extra majors/minors aren't recognised on your transcript unless you have it specially arranged by someone high up (like the Head of the School). It is also harder to get a major at UNSW than Usyd as you are usually forced to take more subjects. The main point of the 4-yr Commerce/Science degree is to specialise, not to pick up extra pieces of paper.

UNSW's Commerce/Science degree is an excellent investment in your education. If you think about it, you only spend an extra yr at uni (after standard 3yrs at uni_ to pick up another degree so the marginal benefit is 1 degree/yr. If you add another yr for honours, I'm sure a 5yr BCom(Hons)/BSc or BCom/BSc (Hons) from UNSW would rank much higher than a BCom/BSc from Usyd as you can genuinely claim to be an expert in your field. Also, in regards to the issue of "Adanced Science" appearing in your degree, at UNSW "Adanced Science" appears on your transcript once you've finished honours (whether you be a single or combined degree student)

 

[adamsaclown]

Advanced you mean

thanks for clearing that up.

 

[implicity]

So it IS possible to do a double major in Science (Mathematics & Statistics) if you're doing the combined B Comm/B Sci @ UNSW?

another question: how many uoc would a minor in science make up?

 

[bscienceboi]

Wait, so if I choose to do extra subjects or a minor it wont show up on my transcript at all? SO the grades + units wont appear?

I mean whats stopping you from doing more subjects and a second major in commerce/science, cause I transferred from Macquarie Med Science and I have plenty of time to fill in and plan on doing some extra releveant subjects.

 

[stazi]

no such thing as a 'minor' anymore. [edit: within usyd]
all subs show up on the transcript

 

[Haku]

no such thing as a 'minor' anymore. [edit: within usyd]
all subs show up on the transcript

i emailed UNSW, and the reply what that u can't do a double major in Bcom under the Bcom/Bsci degree. The max u can do it a major and a minor. But the minor do no show up on your transcript is what the lady told me, implying that its not worth it?

 

[ace]

i emailed UNSW, and the reply what that u can't do a double major in Bcom under the Bcom/Bsci degree. The max u can do it a major and a minor. But the minor do no show up on your transcript is what the lady told me, implying that its not worth it?

that's interesting, i'd like to know if that is true or not, about the minor not appearing on the testamur

since, why would someone waste time (even if 4 subjects) to do a minor if its not even recognised. Might as well do more random fun subjects (even if they are within the same faculty)

 

[§eraphim]

You can easily get a double major in Maths & Stats in the BCom/BSc at UNSW.

If you have some options, you should do more Math subjects. Apart from the standard 3rd yr ones, you can also do:

- postgrad/Honours level Math subjects at UNSW
- postgrad/Honours level Math subjects at USyd (UNSW and USyd are holding some common Honours level subjects). These subjects usually appear on your transcript as "Special Topics in Applied Maths", etc
- courses at the AMSI Summer School

If you want more info, you should contact Ian Doust who is the Head of Pure Maths at UNSW.

If you like subjects that involve financial mathematics, you should consider doing some of the postgrad Stat courses. eg MATH5965 Discrete Time Financial Modelling.

 

[Haku]

by doing summer schools, is it possible to get a double major in BCom at unsw for Bcom/Bsci

 

[§eraphim]

You don't need to take subjects in summer school. You can just do the 3rd yr MATH ones offered at UNSW. I just mentioned that as an option if you have some free electives and you want to do more MATH subjects.

Also, the AMSI Summer School offers Honours level subjects to Honours students from all over Australia.

 

[Raginsheep]

I think he's asking if someone takes extra classes in summer school, can we complete a double major in the Bcom part of a BCom/BSci degree?

 

[§eraphim]

No, FCE summer school is for postgrads.