Einstein and Planck's differing view.plz proof read this for me (2 Viewers)

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Discuss Einstein and Planck’s differing views about whether science research is removed from social and political forces.

Einstein and Planck were both German scientists in the early twentieth century. They were good friends and worked in the same field of physics. But their friendship was troubled by the outbreak of World War I, because Planck was a firm nationalist, he supported the German’s war effort even though his son died in the war, but directly opposite to him stood Einstein, who was a pacifist and believed in world peace.

Although there was no direct debate between Einstein and Planck on this issue, it seems that Einstein and Planck took different views about scientists remaining in Germany and continuing to do scientific research.
When Hitler came in power, Einstein and some other Jewish scientist escaped to United State during the 1930’s. Plank remained in Germany and continued with his scientific researches, even though many of his friends and students were Jewish and suffered constant discrimination and insults from society, he persist on been an nationalist by signing the manifesto of 93 German intellectuals, which showed his absolute royalty to his country and their war efforts. On the other hand, Einstein and 3 other German scientists signed an anti-manifesto in 1914, which made Einstein an indirect rival to Planck.

In the aftermath of World War I Einstein became a major figure in the international peace movement until he fell out with the more radical pacifists who opposed the use of force to combat Nazism. In his famous letter to Franklin Roosevelt, he urged the American president to explore the possibility of developing nuclear weapons to deploy against Nazi Germany.

After the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Einstein deeply regretted what he see as his crucial role in initiating the atomic era, he quoted afterwards that he should not bring science into political and social affairs as the impact would just be devastating.

 

[currysauce]

looks good, but relevance to our course?

 

[JimMorrison]

Relevance?

It's a DOT POINT.

 

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looks good, but relevance to our course?

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[richz]

well this is not in q2q its in ideas

 

[wanton-wonton]

looks good, but relevance to our course?

Good question there.

 

[Forbidden.]

You focused more on Einstein.
Planck believed that science would benefit society and signed the manifesto of the nintey-three intellectuals.
He was a loyal nationalist and saw no moral imperative in opposing the Nationalist regime.

(I would avoid using the word Nazi)

It's dot points like these that steer pure and simple Physics into Physics-related issues that would be a fine addition to Society & Culture.

 

[fretsonfire74]

You should talk about Planck more. Talk more about how his and Einsteins views clashed.

 

[kooltrainer]

so Einstein was a pacifist, why did he urge US president to build the atmoic bomb to destroy hiroshima??

 

[hollyy.]

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[Shadem]

forgive me if i am wrong
but isn't the whole planck v einstein saga during the second world war??

 

[cmanassa]

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[cmanassa]

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[helper]

The answer doesn't have a logical structure. You start from WW1 go onto Hitler and then back to WW1 with the manifesto.

You have talked about the political influences and what einstein and Plank did but no reference to the effect on scientific research. Eg, since Plank agreed with German nationalism, he encouraged German scientist to focus research on the war effort. Eg Haber

 

[Kwayera]

Discuss Einstein and Planck’s differing views about whether science research is removed from social and political forces.

Einstein and Planck were both German /scientists/ physicists in the early twentieth century. /They were good friends and worked in the same field of physics./ /But/ Their friendship was troubled by the outbreak of World War I, /because/ as Planck was a firm nationalist, and he supported the German’s war effort even though his son died in the war. /but/ Directly opposite to him stood Einstein, who was a pacifist and believed in world peace.

Although there was no direct debate between Einstein and Planck on this issue, it seems that Einstein and Planck took different views about scientists remaining in Germany and continuing to do scientific research.

When Hitler came in power, Einstein and some other Jewish scientists escaped to United State during the 1930’s. Plank remained in Germany and continued with his scientific research/es/, even though many of his friends and students were Jewish and suffered constant discrimination and insults from society. He persisted /on/ in been an nationalist by signing the manifesto of 93 German intellectuals, which showed his absolute /royalty/ loyalty to his country and their war efforts. On the other hand, Einstein and /3/ three other German scientists signed an anti-German manifesto in 1914, which made Einstein an indirect rival to Planck.

In the aftermath of World War I Einstein became a major figure in the international peace movement, until he fell out with the more radical pacifists who opposed the use of force to combat Nazism. In his famous letter to Franklin Roosevelt, he urged the American president to explore the possibility of developing nuclear weapons to deploy against Nazi Germany.

After the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Einstein deeply regretted what he /see/ saw as his crucial role in initiating the atomic era; he quoted afterwards that he should not /bring science into political and social affairs as the impact would just be devastating/ have brought science into political and social affairs as the impact had been devastating.

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[sammycho]

Max Planck and Einstein lived in the same time period and both were of German nationality (not ethnically). They shared some scientific and political views but had vastly different opinions on one another. This is evident through the actions displayed, especially during the war.

Plank was a nationalist and argued that scientific studies were justified in its own right, and decisions of what to do with the results should be left to politicians. This meant that science was independent of its political influences according to Planck. This could be justified in the independence of scientific institutions such as the Kaiser Wilhelm institution where Planck worked, and his personal researches were conducted rather than government goal oriented researches. The research conducted Planck would be handed over to various bodies such as government for their own usage. It seemed that science research of the Kaiser Wilhelm institution’s scientific researches were removed from social and political forces until 1938 when the Nazi took over on the grounds that Planck, Sommerfeld and Heisenberg continued to teach the theories of Einstein, calling them “White Jews”. As a result of these accusations investigations were done to actually prove that the scientists of the Kaiser Wilhelm had Jewish descent in them. It was proved that Planck was 1/16th Jewish which made limitations to what Planck could do in his research such as limiting of essential resources and denying basic services; and as a result he protested by resigning. The latter proved to be opposite of what he believed, science research wasn’t removed from social and political forces.

Einstein was a pacifist and similar to later period Planck he strictly believed that science research was never removed from social and political forces. Despite that, Einstein during his early years he removed himself from supporting of any kind of government during his time in Germany and was more concentrated on how he could benefit human kind into becoming a more peaceful world. However in 1939 a group of Hungarian scientist led by Einstein and Leo Szilard attempted to alert Washington on ongoing Nazi atomic bomb research and persuaded President Roosevelt into researching the atomic bomb before the Germans could succeed in producing one. The fear that Germany could’ve produced one of these atomic bombs and to be use against the allied forces could’ve been devastating. This in a form was a social and political force which resulting in the creation of the Manhattan Project. The Manhattan project resulting in the creation of two devastating bombs, “Little Boy” and “Fat Man” which took the lives of many hundreds of thousands innocent civilians. As it is, Einstein never foresaw this to happen and this research could’ve been entirely avoided until later if there had not been a form of political and social force driving into the creation of the Manhattan project.

In conclusion, it is to a degree that there is some independence of scientific research from social and political forces yet by a vast majority, almost all forms of scientific research is influenced in some way by social and political forces, as displayed by the events of Planck and Einstein.
 

 

[anthony9864]

so Einstein was a pacifist, why did he urge US president to build the atmoic bomb to destroy hiroshima??

He is a pacifist and it is for that exact reason that his opposing views of such a development were eventually compromised. Einstein believed that if he did support the development of the atomic bomb and if it was to be used as a threat, that it would end the war for good however he did not perceive the devastating ramifications that followed. He did not know that as a consequence of the development of the atomic bomb that hundreds of thousands of people would die and that the world would become capable of destroying itself. "He later wrote of the pain he experienced when the bombs were finally used"