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wen an organism eats another organism the energy they receive is 10% of wat the original organism had rite.. and the other 90% is lost to heat

for example

a producer (plant) has 100% energy through photosynthesis, a herbivore eats it an only gets 10% of 100 % which is 10% =.=.. then a carnivore eats the herbivore and gets 10% of 10% which is 1%.. is this rite
 
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currysauce said:
sounds right, but it has been awhile
ok thx man.. one more thing.. ADP is changed to ATP by the chemical energy released by the glucose or sugars rite?? what is ADP and ATP..

ATP = Adenosine Triphosphate
ADP = ??

ATP and ADP are energy rite.. but ATP is more usuable energy am i rite in saying this?
 

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ADP = Adenosine Diphosphate. . Is one of the chemical products of the breakdown of ATP for energy during muscle contraction.
ATP = A chemical that serves as the immediate source of chemical energy for most of the energy consuming reactions of the body.

Sound like you have a pretty good grasp on it. :cool:
Btw, I've included a few links with diagrams + info for you.

--> ATP + ADP diagram/info 1

--> ATP + ADP diagram/info 2

--> ATP + ADP diagram/info 3
 
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bluesky100 said:
ADP = Adenosine Diphosphate. . Is one of the chemical products of the breakdown of ATP for energy during muscle contraction.
ATP = A chemical that serves as the immediate source of chemical energy for most of the energy consuming reactions of the body.

Sound like you have a pretty good grasp on it. :cool:
Btw, I've included a few links with diagrams + info for you.

--> ATP + ADP diagram/info 1

--> ATP + ADP diagram/info 2

--> ATP + ADP diagram/info 3
ok thx man.. :) much appreciated
 

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You have AMP in your body as well. :D
ADP, AMP and ATP can also be used as a control mechanism for metabolism. :)
e.g when you have high [ATP], glucose breakdown stops.
 
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Survivor39 said:
You have AMP in your body as well. :D
ADP, AMP and ATP can also be used as a control mechanism for metabolism. :)
e.g when you have high [ATP], glucose breakdown stops.
wait can sumone explain ATP and ADP agen.. i no their forms of energy... but wats the difference.. my teacher says ATP is amore useful form of energy
 

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kadlil said:
wait can sumone explain ATP and ADP agen.. i no their forms of energy... but wats the difference.. my teacher says ATP is amore useful form of energy
When the phsopate group break away from ATP, it releases large amount of energy, use for work. This ATP becomes ADP and Pi.

ADP can further lose another Pi to form AMP, again, the breaking of this high-energy bond create energy for work.
 
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Survivor39 said:
When the phsopate group break away from ATP, it releases large amount of energy, use for work. This ATP becomes ADP and Pi.

ADP can further lose another Pi to form AMP, again, the breaking of this high-energy bond create energy for work.
i stil dun understand y ATP would be the most usable energy.. coz aerobic respiration is

ADP + P + glucose + oxygen ------------> water + carbon dioxide + ATP..

sorry if im a bit slow.. lol
 

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Think of it this way. ATP is a molecule with energy loaded bonds, which can (reasonably) easily give up a phosphate, to become ADP. In that form, it is far less reactive, and the catabolic part of the reaction has finished. ADP isn't usually used for energy, as the bond strength is much greater, and the molecule is less likely to break apart (as a general rule).
Aerobic respiration is a tad more complicated. (You're looking at glycolysis, link reaction, krebs cycle, and moreover oxidative phosphorylation). That is where the energy is supplied to make ADP + Pi into ATP. (ATP Synthetase).
You're in Yr.11 right - just forget about ADP+Pi and ATP in that equation. Instead use -
C6H12O6 + 602 --> 6CO2 + 6H2O + Energy
If you want to read up on it, it is very interesting - but I don't think any knowledge of ATP synthesis is required in the Yr. 11 syllabus.
 
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petar13 said:
Think of it this way. ATP is a molecule with energy loaded bonds, which can (reasonably) easily give up a phosphate, to become ADP. In that form, it is far less reactive, and the catabolic part of the reaction has finished. ADP isn't usually used for energy, as the bond strength is much greater, and the molecule is less likely to break apart (as a general rule).
Aerobic respiration is a tad more complicated. (You're looking at glycolysis, link reaction, krebs cycle, and moreover oxidative phosphorylation). That is where the energy is supplied to make ADP + Pi into ATP. (ATP Synthetase).
You're in Yr.11 right - just forget about ADP+Pi and ATP in that equation. Instead use -
C6H12O6 + 602 --> 6CO2 + 6H2O + Energy
If you want to read up on it, it is very interesting - but I don't think any knowledge of ATP synthesis is required in the Yr. 11 syllabus.
oh i sorta understand now.. ATP has more energy than ADP.. etc.. yeh.. nvm.. i got it. thx
 

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