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Family First seeks net gag
Simon Hayes
SEPTEMBER 28, 2004

CONSERVATIVE political newcomer Family First wants an annual levy of $7 to $10 on all internet users to fund a $45 million mandatory national internet filtering scheme aimed at blocking pornographic and offensive content at server level.

The party, which holds a state seat in South Australia, is considered a strong candidate for a Senate spot after concluding preference deals with all the major parties except the Greens.
The party locked in a deal with John Howard last week to direct preferences to the Coalition in most lower house seats.

Family First, closely linked with the Pentecostal Assemblies of God movement, backs a range of conservative policies, including joint custody for children of divorced parents and tax deductions for school fees.

The party wants the internet filtered at server level, warning that children exposed to online pornography could exhibit "disturbed, aggressive or sexualised behaviour".


The current system of optional filtering had a poor take-up rate, the party said.

"As a society, we have acknowledged the need to regulate other media and prevent porn peddlers from accessing children and adolescents," the Family First policy reads.

"Why is the internet industry allowed to avoid responsibilities on this?"

Family First admitted the cost of the filtering scheme could be prohibitive for small ISPs, but said the scheme should proceed regardless.

"This may have the result of putting cost pressures on some of the smaller ISPs, but there are arguably too many of these at the moment, and adequate competition could be maintained with 30 ISPs rather than the hundreds in existence now," it said.

"This cost is a small price to pay to protect children."

The policy cites a recent study by the Australia Institute that found many teenagers had been exposed to internet pornography, and questioned the effectiveness of the existing system of internet regulation.

It cited a Newspoll commissioned by the institute, in which 93 per cent of parents of teenagers would support automatic filtering as providing "a clear mandate to go ahead with (the) proposal to implement filtering at the ISP level".
 

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A stupid idea, that wouldn't work. Our internet services are already 2+ years behind the US and other countries. Our providers are happy little campers charging us $$$ for adsl/cable which in other countries is bought for basically the price of dial-up! So yay for more price rises and contract changes... hail the great unlimited! *now as well as 10/12gb limits you won't be able to access half of the internet! Great value for money.
 

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Family First - Nanny State!
 

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I really don't see that working... I mean, even China can't totally block the net.

The reason we are behind europe/us in internet quality is the economies of scale - essentially our population and its density make the costs of new infrastructure prohibitive.
 

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maybe they want to improve the imagination of the little kiddies

a noble aspiration if I say so myself

although my personal website http://hotmale.com (warning: click link at own risk) might lose some traffic
 

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ASqy, you're setting yourself up for a really obvious joke there:)
 

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yeah thats pathetic..

i hate all forms of censorship ---------- and i hate all those who advocate it..and pisss all our rights and freedoms down the drain.

fucking government.
 

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thats so stupid
that wont stop porn, they'll always find a way to get through the filter.

if parents are so worried about their kids, they'll use their own measures.
 

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Hahaha, server level filtering.

Ok then, lets censor the shit out of the bible so that every offensive word is blurted out and replaced with one which satisfies society first.

Fuckers. Censor my porn and theres gonna be a revolution damn it :p
 

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bah censorship should be banned... hell i'd pay $7 - $10 a year if they'd stop censoring things! I mean whats the point of producing a good movie or a song or a website only to have ppl censor it because it doesn't conform to their 'sensibilities'. I mean Family first doesn't conform to MY sensibilities.. neither does LAbour or liberal or most other political parties... can we get them censored? Permenently rubbed out and removed like the stain on society they are?... No.. why is that? because other people share their views and its not right to be so narrow minded as to remove all options and avenues from everyone else just cause you're not happy.... didn't those family first dudes learn anything in high school or mebe their priests were a bit too enthusiastic in their 'education' ;)
 

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This is the most stupid thing that i have ever heard!, it is the responsibility of the parent to monitor their children's use of the internet and we as people need to sacrifice our freedoms all in the sake of the security of these pricks. If they want to get rid of child pornography so badly (who doesnt? its disgusting and vile), why dont they use vigilante justice?. This idea of server based filtering reminds me of China. If this were to be implemented, there are always ways around the system.
 

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This seems to abdicate the responsibility of parents to the government. It seeks to block access at a server level, much like China, the question is how?

Individual sites can be blocked, sites which use certain language can be blocked however there is no way of censoring images the technology does not exist to differentiate porn from 'normal' images. BOS would most likely be blocked because of the language used in the Relationships forum. In fact this thread would also be censored because we are repeatedly using the word PORN.

What are the exemptions? It is the right of a consenting adult to view porn (with the exception of child and rape porn) if they so wish (in fact my bet is that the majority of porn is viewed by the middle-aged). How does this adult access porn? Does he enter his credit card details to prove that he(or indeed she, apparently its more popular with women than would be first thought) is over 18? This is then immediately open to abuse as a child with access to their parents credit card, or possibly just the computer (using cookies), can esaily access porn.

Too much competetion might give us prices that are vaguely in line with the worth of the product, this system would likely send us back to paying iprimus and ozemails rip-off prices. Only companies already screwing over their customers could afford to implement this, goodbye TPG.

As mentioned there are ways around, porn sites which dont use 'offensive language', various forms of encryptions and many others.

The system is unenforcable, internet prices will go up again, it will needlessly inconvience users and censorship is just plain wrong.
 

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I got a brochure from Narwee station. Apparently they want to reinject family values and stop homosexual relationships for good. They also want to include a prayer session before every parliament sitting. Religion/politics/law do not mix. :\
 

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beccaxx said:
isnt porn blocked in singapore tho?
Everything is blocked in Singapore. Chewing gum was banned until Wrigley's lodged a complaint with the WTO :p
 

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santaslayer said:
I got a brochure from Narwee station. Apparently they want to reinject family values and stop homosexual relationships for good. They also want to include a prayer session before every parliament sitting. Religion/politics/law do not mix. :\
I don't see how they can call themselves Family First when they only support the nuclear family (as i mentioned on the other family first thread)
homosexual couples are families!

If they bring this in I am never going to pay up!

This isn't a method to protect children, its to control the masses-
they should never have the power to choose what we have access to - they could censor anything. It's a scary thought. It's like the beginnings of 1984.
 
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wow i thought chewing gum still was banned. the whole country sounds more like a private skool than a country in its strict laws. i was at a bustop when i was there 3 yrs ago, and they hav a sign up next to the timetable with all the "rules" of the country.it sounds like a skool!
haha anyways sorry that was off the subject
 

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NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! How can they block porn? Stupid christians and their stupid ideals.
 

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