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hey anyone doing french beginners and is as dumb as me?? :p :rolleyes: :shy:
i need help... especially with pronunciation nd speaking.. and also, is there any easy way to learn the grammar and verb conjugation with infinitives and excemption and stuff??

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hey,

I'm sorry to say, that there is really no easy way to learn grammar and conjugating verbs. One hint though, don't slack off thinking that 'it's too hard!'. Because it will haunt you forever if you do that!

Make sure you get the regular verbs under your belt really soon. know -er, -ir, -re....as well as irregular avoir and etre.

And you'll find that so-called 'irregular' verbs such as prendre, comprendre, apprendre etc also follow patterns in their little groups. If you can work systematically through verbs, your french will be SO much better. I promise!

In terms of speaking, the best thing you can do is PRACTISE! I know it sounds gay, but it's the only way. Just do stupid little things, like when you get home, talk to yourself, saying things like 'j'ai faim....ou est le pain?'...gay, I know...but everything helps!

Anyway, if you need help with anything, give me a yell!

Love Katie xoxo
 

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thanks katie,
i'll make sure i learn the conjugations. although i m quite fam,iliar with -er and etre and avoir, i get mixed up with the -re and -ir! and now to add to the misery, my teacher is gonna be doing the passe compose and the imperfect!! how bad is that?? but i did get my teacher to tape all the vocab for me to listen hopefully that shud help.
thanks heaps again!!
 

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Passe Compose

ah, -ir and -re. Well, to be honest, I still get caught up on them sometimes. Most of the time I still have to go through it in my head...s, s, t, issons, issez, issez....it's a bugger, you just have to sit and learn...and i know that's not much help! sorry!!

But don't worry about passe compose!! You'll be fine, I promise you! In fact, if you have got a hold on avoir and etre, you will have no worries in the world! Brief lesson:

Passe Compose has TWO parts {NEVER forget TWO parts!!}
1. Auxiliary Verb.
This part, which the scary name, is just AVOIR conjugated. So if you want to say 'he ate' you think: he=il --> how do I conjugate avoir for il? - il a (and the 'ate' part we'll get to in a sec)
SO the 'a' is the auxiliary verb.
Another example. if you want to say 'we played' you think: we=nous -->how do I conjugate avoir for nous? - nous avons (and the played part we'll get to in a sec)
Think you've got the auxiliary verb under control?

2. The Past Participle.
Another scary name, but it's really easy. It's hard to do on the computer, because I don't know how to do accents, but I'll try explain.
For the past participle of -er verbs, you take off the r, and put an acute accent on the e.
So manger becomes mange (with the acute)
For the past participle of -ir verbs, you take of the r, and leave just the 'i'.
So finir becomes fini.
Most -re verbs have irregular past participles, so we won't go there yet!

That's it!! SO...lets make a sentence. "We played football on the weekend"
Nous avons joue(avec e acute) le foot pendant le weekend.
Get it?

HOWEVER, there are also some verbs, that instead of using AVOIR as the auxiliary verb, use the conjugation of ETRE.

EG, you don't say "I went to school" as J'ai alle a l'ecole.
You say 'Je SUIS alle a l'ecole.

I have a rhyme to help rememver the verbs that are conjugated with etre, but this post is probably long and confusing enough, so I'll help you later with that!!

xoxo
 

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I hadn't learnt past tense when I was in year 9 and 10 (which I imagine is similar to the continuers course, but possibly a little harder).

Ah well, c'est la vie pretty much said it!
 

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