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Hi!
I'm in yr12 right now, and I'm just thinkin of the courses im interested in..

Basically, I'm interested in 2 courses.. Visual Communications and Law.

My dream course is Vis Comm/Inter. Studies @ UTS.. But the UAI cutoff is 98!
Then I was thinking, I could do the Vis Comm course at UWS (UAI = 80.20) and possibly transfer after one semester to UTS doing the combined degree.. But thats risky because they don't guarantee me a place there and I really don't want to stay at penrith for 4 more years..

Anyway, my other option is Business/Law at UWS (parra campus) which is more realistic to get.. Plus it'll make all my relatives happy and not look down at me.. And it'll get me a high paying job and make my parents proud..

So should I do something thats risky that I would enjoy? Or should I do something that would pay well, get everyone happy and is something I might enjoy?

I really want to be a graphics designer/work in a magazine/work in japan for squaresoft or any other big japanese based firm. Everyones telling me to do what I want, but I don't know if I'll be successful in this industry because its so competitive.. Whereas Law is more academic..

Anyone do any of these courses who can help me decide on what I should do?
 

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Rule one: follow your heart. if you are in a field you are passionate about you will succeed.


Why don't you do straight vis comm at UTS, then transfer in to it with int std? It's pretty easy to get a transfer into int std at UTS once you are already studying a course there.

Also, don't fall for the delusion that studying law will get you a high paying job.... so so so so so so sooooooo many law grads are unemployed or not working in law at all. Law is very competitive, and if you don't have a passion for law you will not succeed in kicking the competition's ass.

I was in a similar position. I basically could have studied pretty much anything I wanted. Journalism is a hard field to get a job in, and it's not viewed very highly... you should see people's faces when you tell them you study journo... but I love it, and I haven't regretted choosing my course for a moment.

Follow your heart. It can be so hard, and like you I tossed and turned over my decision, thinking that maybe I should have studied something more serious, but I'm glad I made the decision that I did.
 

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I don't think I can get into Vis comm at uts.. I really doubt I can get a UAI above 90..

So my only option is to do it at uws for a year.. But its so hard competing against all the other people with higher uai's who want to transfer into that course.. I dont' know where i'd end up in the end..
 

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I wouldn't worry too much if you end up doing it at uws... I think it would be the kind of industry where your talent rather than the place you went to uni would count when you were looking for jobs etc.

The whole uni prestige thing is kinda overrated. Especially for some career paths.

There are some people on the UTS board who do viscomm, maybe they would be able to help.
 

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Uni prestige has little to do with getting good jobs in the design industry, it's all about having an impressive portfolio, satisfied former clients, and a good reputation within the industry. Carefully look at the Viscomm program structure, subjects/majors offered at each uni (they differ between uni's) and then choose the uni that provides what you're looking for. i'd say that UTS probably has the best viscomm course.

i didn't have the uai for UTS or Newcastle, and didn't want to move to sydney anyway, so that's why i'm at Avondale. i wanted to study a combo of visual/fine arts, graphic design and communication, as well as the core subjects in general humanities and religion, so it works well for me here.

but if you're into visual comm then i'm guessing you must be a sort of creative/artsy person, so go 4 it! i have no regrets and no idea what the employment future holds, but if u have the drive then you'll go places.
 
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mz_bubbletea said:
Hi!
I'm in yr12 right now, and I'm just thinkin of the courses im interested in..

Basically, I'm interested in 2 courses.. Visual Communications and Law.

My dream course is Vis Comm/Inter. Studies @ UTS.. But the UAI cutoff is 98!
Then I was thinking, I could do the Vis Comm course at UWS (UAI = 80.20) and possibly transfer after one semester to UTS doing the combined degree.. But thats risky because they don't guarantee me a place there and I really don't want to stay at penrith for 4 more years..

Anyway, my other option is Business/Law at UWS (parra campus) which is more realistic to get.. Plus it'll make all my relatives happy and not look down at me.. And it'll get me a high paying job and make my parents proud..

So should I do something thats risky that I would enjoy? Or should I do something that would pay well, get everyone happy and is something I might enjoy?

I really want to be a graphics designer/work in a magazine/work in japan for squaresoft or any other big japanese based firm. Everyones telling me to do what I want, but I don't know if I'll be successful in this industry because its so competitive.. Whereas Law is more academic..

Anyone do any of these courses who can help me decide on what I should do?
Another option:

Go for your desired course and see what you can come up with upon graduation. If you find the visual design job unsatisfying, you can always get into graduate law. Doing law in Australia cannot get you rich at all, unless you are working for one of the top tier firms. :p
 

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mz_bubbletea said:
I really want to be a graphics designer/work in a magazine/work in japan for squaresoft or any other big japanese based firm. Everyones telling me to do what I want, but I don't know if I'll be successful in this industry because its so competitive.. Whereas Law is more academic..
law isn't just more academic (by this i think you mean more theoretical than practical right?), at the top end, it's also very competitive (like every goddamn profession). but srsly, if your heart isn't in law, or you feel that you cannot force yourself to like law, then don't bother (bcoz there's already an oversupply of people doing law just for the hell of it)...

as for the designer part, if it's your dream, it's your dream, don't let anyone take that from you. goodluck.
 

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My dad's friend gets paid about 310k each year, she's not a lawyer but she studied it and now defends people who want to migrate here, I think its called persuasion.. but thats because she can speak both english and chinese.

Then my mum was saying to me Law would be really good for me because there aren't many multi-lingual solicitors/lawyers out there.. Design really is competitive and people have to like what you do in order to employ you..

I'd really like to do design though, I don't know if I can take the risks.. I dont want to regret listening to my parents.
 

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if you doubt that you can get a UAI over 90, maybe you shouldn't assume that you can get through the law course like a breeze. i'm not saying that the uai is an completely accurate indication of how well you'll survive in uni but maybe you're making too many assumptions.

also, the uts int. studies course doesn't start until 2nd year, so if you do viscomm first year, and transfer into the combined degree 2nd year, you don't miss any units at all.
 

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As someone else said, if you end up regretting your decision to do viscomm, do postgrad law....

As for your parent's friend, she is in the smallest minority of lawyers!!! Most of them are unemployed!!!
 

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Melbournian: If you keep bashing UWS, I'll keep deleting your posts. After a while I'll just delete everything you post regardless of content.

You've been warned.
 

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Toodulu said:
if you doubt that you can get a UAI over 90, maybe you shouldn't assume that you can get through the law course like a breeze.
I could do the RET Test.. I was talking to this Law person at the careers market and they said that if I got high 80's and if I did RET then I'd get in..

I didn't know that you could do post graduate Law tho.. don't you need qualifications for that? =T
 

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i heard somewhere that UWS has a 33% unemployment rate for its students after you leave the uni...

why don't you do that design thing first and do a grad law course part-time while you try and find a decent job in the design industry. You'll have something to fall back on if all else fails.
 

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mz_bubbletea said:
I could do the RET Test.. I was talking to this Law person at the careers market and they said that if I got high 80's and if I did RET then I'd get in..

I didn't know that you could do post graduate Law tho.. don't you need qualifications for that? =T

1) Be careful. From what I know, most universities do not allow LLB hopefuls to sit the RET test. I am not sure on UNE though. :)

2) LoLz, yes. Postgraduate law is for those who have already completed an undergraduate LLB and wish to further their studies in that particular field. eg. LLM.
What you're after, is Graduate Law. :)

Ah! Read this!

http://www.boredofstudies.org/community/showthread.php?p=780885#post780885
 
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Well yes, than you should go to another university with a lower cutoff. Try to transfer after first year. Alternatively, you can start a Law course under the Legal Practicioners Admission Board. This is a certified course which gives you full credentials to practice as a lawyer. Some students from university have to go through this body to be admitted as a solicotor. (If their university does not offer the Practical Legal Training course).

I'm just giving alternatives. :p
 

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