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Can you differentiate ln(x + sqrt(x^2 - a^2)), x>a for me without using the standard integrals?
 

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In general,
d/dx(ln(f(x))) = f'(x)/f(x) for any function f(x).

Hence,
d/dx(ln(x+sqrt(x^2-a^2)) {note f(x) here is x+sqrt(x^2-a^2).}

= (1+x/sqrt(x^2-a^2))/(x+sqrt(x^2-a^2))
= (sqrt(x^2-a^2)+x)/(sqrt(x^2-a^2)*(x+sqrt(x^2-a^2))
=1/sqrt(x^2-a^2)
...this is what you're looking for? :p
 
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yep.

Can you integrate it backwards for me: integrate 1/(x^2 - a^2)?
 

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coca cola said:
yep.

Can you integrate it backwards for me: integrate 1/(x^2 - a^2)?
thats meant to be in square root isnt it?

alternative to no_arg's:
let x = a*sec@
then, after simplifying, you'll have to do int sec@ d@
which can be done by writing sec@ as
sec@ (sec@ + tan@) / (sec@ + tan @)
= (sec^2@ + sec@tan@) / (tan@ + sec@)

not that its easier :p

but if you dont have the standard integral sheet at all and you somehow forget that it will have "x + sqrt(x^2-a^2)", this method may be a longer alternative.
 

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