Re: Judges go shopping too
hfis said:
Haha, I remember that page. Good to see some new ones since I was last there, thanks MS.
This entire transcript is gold, from start to finish.
MR WILSON: For any judge to say that an Australian has not got the right to trial by jury and - - -
GUMMOW J: Well, it is just not right.
MR WILSON: Pardon? It is not - - -
GUMMOW J: It is not correct. Section 80 of the Constitution makes certain provision in criminal matters.
MR WILSON: In section 80 of the Constitution to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia is one part of the Constitution of Australia. It is only one single document. In fact, the right to trial by jury is well established as a constitutional law, constitutional law.
GUMMOW J: Look, you can try and lecture us about these matters if you wish.
MR WILSON: Pardon?
GUMMOW J: You can try and lecture us about these matters if you wish, Mr Wilson.
MR WILSON: Well, obviously the judiciary is in gross error and gross ignorance.
GUMMOW J: That would be fairly unlikely. You might have - - -
MR WILSON: It is not - I have been fighting for the right to trial by jury.
GUMMOW J: You continue with what you say - - -
MR WILSON: Can I say - this is my 20 minutes. Can I say my 20 minutes?
GUMMOW J: Just listen to me for a minute and you might be better off. You proceed to say what you wish for the next 20 minutes, right, which is your time. Now, go ahead.
MR WILSON: Well, the right to trial by jury is far more than an entitlement precious to Australians. It is the only way to guarantee truth, justice and freedom. Thomas Jefferson said trial by jury is the only anchor yet imagined by man which can hold a government to the principles of its Constitution. Sovereignty lies with the people of Australia, and it is the will of the people that governs this nation. Sovereignty does not lie with the Parliament nor the judiciary. They swear an oath to be faithful and they have true allegiance and well and truly serve Queen Elizabeth II of England who - - -
GUMMOW J: No, not Queen Elizabeth II of England.
MR WILSON: Queen Elizabeth II of England.
GUMMOW J: No, there is no such person. In the first place, Her Majesty's sovereignty is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and in the second place, relevantly for this, she is the Queen of Australia.
MR WILSON: The first Queen Elizabeth was Queen of England.
GUMMOW J: Of course, before the union of the Crowns in 1603.
MR WILSON: So therefore Queen Elizabeth II is the second Queen to be called Elizabeth of England, not of Australia. She is not Queen Elizabeth II of Australia. You have sworn an oath to Queen Elizabeth II, have you not?
GUMMOW J: Do not ask questions of the Bench, please.
MR WILSON: You refuse to answer? Okay, so sovereignty does not lie with the Parliaments nor the judiciary. They swear an oath to be faithful and bear true allegiance and well and truly serve Queen Elizabeth II of England, who has in turn sworn to govern the peoples of Australia according to our laws and customs. The way in which she has done this is laid out in the words of the Coronation ceremony. I have included that as one of the documents for your enlightenment.
GUMMOW J: Do not use expressions like that either, please.
MR WILSON: Pardon?
GUMMOW J: Do not insult the Bench with expressions like that.
MR WILSON: What is wrong with "enlightenment"?
GUMMOW J: Carry on.
MR WILSON: The right to trial by jury is entrenched in our laws, and anyone such as the diverse "evil counsellors . . . and ministers", mentioned in the Bill of Rights 1688, who endeavour to "subvert and extirpate . . . the laws and liberties" is treacherous and they must be punished according to laws for their evil doings. This is all laid out, again, in section 43 of the Imperial Acts Application Act 1970 , which carries a penalty for anybody who offends again the Imperial enactments - - -
GUMMOW J: No, that is a law of the Parliament of New South Wales, is it not?
MR WILSON: Yes. The Supreme Court is in New South Wales.
GUMMOW J: Yes. Controlled by the Supreme Court Act of New South Wales too.
MR WILSON: The Supreme Court Act of New South Wales?
GUMMOW J: Yes. Supreme Court Act.
HAHAHAAHA THAT MR WILSON IS AN IDIOT.