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:'( I literally feel like crying... the mid semester exam for psy237 is wroth 25% is on tuesday :(... and it's sooo hard....I NEED HELP!! :'(


Does anyone have notes?? :'(

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its worth 40%. I will help you once i have my notes together. Don't panic, i think most people are panicing about this test. it is a very difficult subject. Just try and look at the main points.. look on p13 and use the topic headings as a guide and a few pages before that there are page references to the topics.

With such little time i wouldn't recommend flooding your head by re-listening to lectures. write down points and try and integrate the subject together. pick out 4 topics from different areas and study them particualrly in depth for the essay. and dont forget about cognition.. i have a feeling most people have underestimated that it is worth 15% of the test even though we have only had 4 hours. use that to your advantage and study that just as much.
 

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Man, from what I've heard about the 2nd year psych units makes me so glad I transferred out of my ba psych to a dip ed this year. Good luck the both of you!!
 

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Wow James, you have it all together! I'm studying tomorrow and monday... I'm hassled but not really. Looking at those practice exam questions are a bit scary (he seems to like monkey's). I think cognition is doable, especially the more recent things.

Truthfully Clairegirl, I agree with James. I hardly remember anything, but I'm hoping that comes back. If you know a few things in depth (or at least to a degree that you could answer a mulit-choice question on), ignore them and focus on the things you really dont know.

..and read Shipp's article (although I thought it was pretty boring and didn't tell me much more about good old parvo and magno pathways)... Wonder what the essay for cognition is going to be on?
 

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Yeah, you told Steve and I your theory re: Shipp, and then in the last lecture he kinda implied it again (but that crazy laugh when the girl asked about the article), and agree again with the attention over WM, that Dr. Kin... lady is far more together in explaining things and making her lectures flow than Coltheart. Plus, its interesting (cognitive dissonance!)!

So basically my plan is exactly the same as your plan James- hopefully its correct! :D
 

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Here are my attention notes... haven't yet done Coltheart's lecture's..

i just went through perception-I dont remember anything!! Only the random kinda bits and pieces, and the stuff right at the end... and magno/parvo cells.. Its not looking good. I figure I'll just finish cognition this afternoon, and do some perception tonight and tomorrow.
 

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In the spirit of sharing, here are my notes..
(They're too big to attach here, so I've uploaded them elsewhere)

If anyone else has any notes, they'd be GREATLY appreciated... even if they're incomplete or ugly or have spelling errors... we can all help each other, right?? :eek:

Some are in a certain state of incompletion or conciseness.. for example, Wk5 cognition is more or less a transcript of the lecture, compared to wk4 where I've tried to reword and explain. If you see notation like (50:23) that means how many minutes I had gone through in the iLecture.. usually means I got up to do something or came back, or that's where I up to...

Cognition 2 & 3: Short Term Memory (Finished, I think. Maybe missing last 10 mins of week3)
Cognition 4: Attention I (finished)
Cognition 5: Attention II (ugly, but it's all there)

Perception: I find making notes for this really, really boring, so you'll have to accept the lack of quality, especially as they go on because my enthusiasm for the topic waned.. :D

Perception Topic 1: Theory of Corresponding Retinal Points (INCOMPLETE ...80% finished)
Perception Topic 2: Receptive Fields & Convolution (INCOMPLETE)
Perception Topic 3: Psychophysical Paradigms (Incomplete... up to masking, from memory)

And, for anyone who is having troubles with jumping all over your perception notes, MJ and I went through the slides and worked out a rough syllabus of things he talked about, with the logic that he used slides for more or less everything, and in order.

Syllabus for Wenderoth

I repeat:
If anyone has any notes, they'd be GREATLY appreciated... even if they're incomplete or ugly or have spelling errors... we can all help each other, right?? :eek:
 

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is it just me or does the parvocellular pathway and Magnocellular pathway not really correspond with the blob and interblob distinction. Blobs are interested in colour, interblobs likr orientation and edges (i assume end-stopped), but they are both on the diagram on page 35 as being an extension of the Parvocellular layers. Can someone explain this. its really weird. :/


EDIT: I get it now. the whole point is that they are not sure of the M/P pathways. duh! That table on page 35 is not only confusing it is misleading... i found a very good source -http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/abstract/18/22/9489- which explained it a bit more
 
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just a question. does the term 'cortical cells' include V1 and extrastriate cortex (v2, v2, Mt etc)???? or does 'cortical' just mean V1??? i know this may sound like a stupid question, but i need to know what instances the category 'cortical' includes. any help is appreciated :)
 

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I'd assume that its just cells in the cortex, so all the cortex. Another question about cortical areas: is IT part of it too? I'm a bit confused as to what it includes because I read that its only the other V areas, but then they start talking about MT and IT... grr!
 

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MaryJane said:
I'd assume that its just cells in the cortex, so all the cortex. Another question about cortical areas: is IT part of it too? I'm a bit confused as to what it includes because I read that its only the other V areas, but then they start talking about MT and IT... grr!
MT= V5 So MT would be included if cortical areas are all V areas. IT is probably another name for a V area too.
 

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cortical magnification factor: does this mean that there are equal amounts of cells in the centre and peripheral, but the ones in the centre have more cortical tissue (thus stronger)?
 

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MaryJane said:
cortical magnification factor: does this mean that there are equal amounts of cells in the centre and peripheral, but the ones in the centre have more cortical tissue (thus stronger)?
Each module (the orientation column and occular dominance column) is dedicated to a cell. But each module is the same space (about 2mm) so the space on V1 for cells near the fovea is bigger because they are more tightly packed in the fovea and many receptors have 'private lines.' : that refers to the cortical magnification factor. I remember some stats: the fovea takes 0.01% of area on the retina but 8-10% of space on the visual cortex. Also greater space is also because their is more input from cells in near the fovea- there is greater acuity there
 

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So, I'm going to ask the loaded question:

How'd you find it?

It wasnt nearly as bad as I thought it would be. The essays were great (I cant explain how happy I am with those questions!!), the perception multi choice were pretty crappy (only knew the answer for sure for about 4), but the cognition ones were good. I think I got them all right except for maybe that one on kids with 'ap-something' and 'dp-something'.. I knew what the disorders were, but not what they could/couldnt do.

Hoping for a P! :D
 

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i am really annoyed, because i did the perception bit last and was a little tired so i chose the question that looked the easiest.. but as i was half way i really started to wish i had picked the other one, i had so much more information on the one i didnt pick... weh, but overall the test was ok. multi-choice was quite hard, attention essay was great but i really wish they didnt drop hints in the muti-choice bit..

I always complain about exams, just a bad habit. lol, so just ignore me. :)
 

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I went through the results of last year in excel, and just to make you all the happier about this exam, I thought I'd let you know about the results of my excel analysis...

Total Students: 337 (in yr 2004)

Failed: 74 (21.96%)
PC: 40 (11.87%)
P: 148 (43.92%)
C: 41 (12.17%)
D: 29 (8.61%)
HD: 5 (1.48%)
 

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No, no, not at all! Complain all you want! I agree about them dropping hints in the multi-choice, its not really v. fair. But then again, if you were one of those people who didn't know what to say, it might have helped. I didn't even read the alternative to the cognition essay-just went straight to the attention one! But I freaked out a bit at the beginning because the test paper said "choose one of two perception, and complete the cognition essay" suggesting there was only one essay for cognition for us to do! Which perception did you do? I did the one on the cortical magnification factor (because thanks to you, Steve and I went back and re-listened to the lecture last night where he talked about it, and it made sense!). So if I hadn't listened to that, I would have been screwed for perception because I didnt know enough about the other alternative.

I know this is going to sound strange and well... just weird, but I'm going to miss Peter in an odd sort of way! I've grown attached to the grumpy old man!
 

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Skittled said:
I went through the results of last year in excel, and just to make you all the happier about this exam, I thought I'd let you know about the results of my excel analysis...

Total Students: 337 (in yr 2004)

Failed: 74 (21.96%)
PC: 40 (11.87%)
P: 148 (43.92%)
C: 41 (12.17%)
D: 29 (8.61%)
HD: 5 (1.48%)

wow i didn't know so many people failed :S thats crazy!! 74!!!
 

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Cyan_phoeniX said:
I think most people who are against wenderoth are like that because he teaches such a hard course.
Agreed. I think he's a lovely person, and funny! Darren looks as though he's let himself go a bit this year. He doesn't dress like he used to. I mean, he's my tutor for 237, and last time he was wearing a lovely bright orange jumper that was all tattered and bummy jeans, and he looked like he hadn't shaved. Oh, and he just looked so drained and older up close. It was quite startling! first years get all the good things! Enjoy it while it lasts!
 

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