• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

induction q. from fitz. (1 Viewer)

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
hey, i'm just stuck in the process of the whole thing...just kinda getting used to induction- could someone write the solution (with the process) for this q. pleassse... from fitzpatric, 23(c)q 9

1+2+3^2+3^3+...+3^(n-1)= (3^(n) - 1) / 2

thanks!!!
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Theorem: 1 + 3 + 3<sup>2</sup> + ... + 3<sup>n-1</sup> = (3<sup>n</sup> - 1) / 2, for all integers n=>1

Proof: By induction on n.

A Put n = 1: LHS = 3<sup>0</sup> = 1
RHS = (3<sup>1</sup> - 1) / 2 = (3 - 1) / 2 = 1 = LHS
So, the result is true for n = 1.

B Let k be a value of n for which the result is true.
That is, 1 + 3 + 3<sup>2</sup> + ... + 3<sup>k-1</sup> = (3<sup>k</sup> - 1) / 2 ________(**)

(Comment: Note that the above statement is called the induction hypothesis. It is labelled (**) because it is very important)

We must now prove the result for n = k + 1.
That is, we must prove 1 + 3 + 3<sup>2</sup> + ... + 3<sup>k</sup> = (3<sup>k+1</sup> - 1) / 2

LHS = 1 + 3 + 3<sup>2</sup> + ... + 3<sup>k</sup>
= [1 + 3 + 3<sup>2</sup> + ... + 3<sup>k-1</sup>] + 3<sup>k</sup>
= [(3<sup>k</sup> - 1) / 2] + 3<sup>k</sup>, using the induction hypothesis (**)
= (1 / 2) * (3<sup>k</sup> - 1 + 2 * 3<sup>k</sup>)
= (3 * 3<sup>k</sup> - 1) / 2
= (3<sup>k+1</sup> - 1) / 2
= RHS

So, if the result is true for n = k, then it is also true for n = k + 1.

C It follow from A and B by mathematical induction that the result is true for all integers n => 1.
 
Last edited:

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Note that if you were asked to prove this result, but were not required to use induction to do so, then it would be much easier to simply sum the GP. :)
 

Grey Council

Legend
Joined
Oct 14, 2003
Messages
1,426
Gender
Male
HSC
2004
hrm, if my advice is worth anything, do alot of induction. alot and alot and alot. first of all, its interesting, and fun. but more importantly, it did wonders for my algebra. Induction and differentiation pretty much got my algebra not rusty. (lol, i won't say my algebra is good, cause its not, but its not rusty. :) )
 

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
thanks for your help guyz!!!

i'm so silly---stoopid algebraic mistakes throughout:argue:
 

Grey Council

Legend
Joined
Oct 14, 2003
Messages
1,426
Gender
Male
HSC
2004
lol, trust me, thats why i said do heaps of induction and differentiation. it'll sharpen your algebra.
 

Xayma

Lacking creativity
Joined
Sep 6, 2003
Messages
5,953
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
And all types of induction problems like unequalities etc.
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Originally posted by Xayma
And all types of induction problems like unequalities etc.
And remember that factorial induction is a possibility, so make sure that you do some once you have covered the binomial theorem. I have a variety of induction problems, if anyone needs some more to practice. :)
 

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
arr....stuck on another one...

Sn= n/2 {2a+(n-1)d}


:( *confuzzled*
 

~*HSC 4 life*~

Active Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2003
Messages
2,411
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
induction's soooooo fun!

what's the question dilos? are you meant to prove the formula for sum of n terms by math induction?
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
~*HSC 4 life*~, the question was no doubt something like:

Using mathematical induction, prove that

a + (a + d) + (a + 2d) + ... + [a + (n - 1)d] = (n / 2) * [2a + (n - 1)d]

where a and d are constant, for all positive integers n.
 

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
Originally posted by ~*HSC 4 life*~
induction's soooooo fun!

what's the question dilos? are you meant to prove the formula for sum of n terms by math induction?
yep!! can you help me out....i'm kinda stuck 3/4 of the way into the question (the factorising part)..:(

thanks dude
 

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
btw. this is another question but:

are

n(n+1) is an even number.

and

2+4+6+...+2n= n(n+1)

(proof by induction)

the same question? cos they're asked one after the other.
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Originally posted by dilos
are

n(n+1) is an even number.

and

2+4+6+...+2n= n(n+1)

(proof by induction)

the same question? cos they're asked one after the other.
No, they aren't they are separate induction problems. ie.

1. Prove by mathematical induction that n(n + 1) is even (ie. a multiple of 2) for all positive integers n.

2. Prove by mathematical induction that 2 + 4 + 6 + ... + 2n = n(n + 1), for all positive integers n.
 

~*HSC 4 life*~

Active Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2003
Messages
2,411
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
You would start the first one like:
prove
n(n+1)= 2P

prove true for n=1
LHS= 1(1+1)
= 2
which is divisble by 2

Assume true for n=k
etc etc

as for the Sn one, i got stuck too :( it's late and i'm tired and ive got ext maths 7:30 tommrow lol, i'll leave it to CM_Tutor coz he/she is a brain and a half :lol:
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Theorem: a + (a + d) + (a + 2d) + ... + [a + (n - 1)d] = (n / 2) * [2a + (n - 1)d], for all integers n=>1

Proof: By induction on n.

A Put n = 1: LHS = a
RHS = (1 / 2) * [2a + (1 - 1)d] = 2a / 2 = a = LHS
So, the result is true for n = 1.

B Let k be a value of n for which the result is true.
That is, a + (a + d) + (a + 2d) + ... + [a + (k - 1)d] = (k / 2) * [2a + (k - 1)d] ________(**)
We must now prove the result for n = k + 1.
That is, we must prove a + (a + d) + (a + 2d) + ... + (a + kd) = [(k + 1) / 2] * (2a + kd)

LHS = a + (a + d) + (a + 2d) + ... + [a + kd]
= {a + (a + d) + (a + 2d) + ... + [a + (k - 1)d]} + (a + kd)
= {(k / 2) * [2a + (k - 1)d]} + (a + kd), using the induction hypothesis (**)
= 2ak / 2 + k(k-1)d / 2 + a + kd
= ak + a + (d / 2)* [k(k - 1) + 2k]
= (k + 1)a + d(k<sup>2</sup> - k + 2k) / 2
= 2(k + 1)a / 2 + dk(k + 1) / 2
= [(k + 1) / 2] * (2a + kd)
= RHS

So, if the result is true for n = k, then it is also true for n = k + 1.

C It follow from A and B by mathematical induction that the result is true for all integers n => 1.
 

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
thanks CM_tutor!! you rule....

errr...i'm ashamed to ask you another question...

how do you do this one:

n
(2r-1)^(3) = n^(2) [2n^(2)-1]
r=1
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Theorem: 1<sup>3</sup> + 3<sup>3</sup> + 5<sup>3</sup> + ... + (2n - 1)<sup>3</sup> = n<sup>2</sup>(2n<sup>2</sup> - 1), for all integers n=>1

Proof: By induction on n.

A Put n = 1: LHS = 1<sup>3</sup> = 1
RHS = 1<sup>2</sup>[2(1)<sup>2</sup> - 1] = 1 * (2 - 1) = 1 = LHS
So, the result is true for n = 1.

B Let k be a value of n for which the result is true.
That is, 1<sup>3</sup> + 3<sup>3</sup> + 5<sup>3</sup> + ... + (2k - 1)<sup>3</sup> = k<sup>2</sup>(2k<sup>2</sup> - 1) ________(**)
We must now prove the result for n = k + 1.
That is, we must prove 1<sup>3</sup> + 3<sup>3</sup> + 5<sup>3</sup> + ... + (2k + 1)<sup>3</sup> = (k + 1)<sup>2</sup>[2(k + 1)<sup>2</sup> - 1]

LHS = 1<sup>3</sup> + 3<sup>3</sup> + 5<sup>3</sup> + ... + (2k + 1)<sup>3</sup>
= [1<sup>3</sup> + 3<sup>3</sup> + 5<sup>3</sup> + ... + (2k - 1)<sup>3</sup>] + (2k + 1)<sup>3</sup>
= [k<sup>2</sup>(2k<sup>2</sup> - 1)] + (2k + 1)<sup>3</sup>, using the induction hypothesis (**)
= 2k<sup>4</sup> - k<sup>2</sup> + (2k)<sup>3</sup> + 3(2k)<sup>2</sup>(1) + 3(2k)(1)<sup>2</sup> + 1<sup>3</sup>
= 2k<sup>4</sup> + 8k<sup>3</sup> + 11k<sup>2</sup> + 6k + 1
RHS = (k + 1)<sup>2</sup>[2(k + 1)<sup>2</sup> - 1]
= (k<sup>2</sup> + 2k + 1)(2k<sup>2</sup> + 4k +1)
= 2k<sup>4</sup> + 4k<sup>3</sup> + 2k<sup>2</sup> + 4k<sup>3</sup> + 8k<sup>2</sup> + 4k + k<sup>2</sup> + 2k + 1
= 2k<sup>4</sup> + 8k<sup>3</sup> + 11k<sup>2</sup> + 6k + 1
= LHS

So, if the result is true for n = k, then it is also true for n = k + 1.

C It follow from A and B by mathematical induction that the result is true for all integers n => 1.

-----

Comment: In B, it would be better to not have to expand both sides, but rather transform LHS into RHS, but I don't see an easy way to do that off hand. :)
 
Last edited:

dilos

Member
Joined
May 19, 2003
Messages
58
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
hahaha, thanks dude


guess what....ur stuck with me and my stoopid q's!

what about...this one:

d/dx (x^n) = nx^(n-1) for all n=>1


do i suck or do i suck?
*anyone answers that- and they die*

are you annoyed at me yet CM_tutor...
 

CM_Tutor

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 11, 2004
Messages
2,642
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
This question was discussed on the other current induction thread - have a look, and then try it yourself.

And no, I'm not annoyed. Why do you ask?
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top