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KvB Open Day​
A fantastic opportunity for prospective students to talk to lecturers, students and support staff about KvB design and visual communication courses on offer and how our courses will help your career.

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Date: Saturday 9 September 2006
Time: 10am - 3pm
Address: 99 Mount Street, North Sydney

Program:
• Student work displays
• Interactive sessions
• 12 noon - Parent and Student Information Session
• Campus tours
• Light refreshments

Our courses
KvB offers a three year Bachelor of Arts (Visual Communication) degree with majors in:
○ Digital Media ○ Fashion Design ○ Graphic Design ○ Interior Design ○ Photography
○ TV & Video Production

Feel free to talk to us about our Certificate IV and Diploma programs.

Why KvB?
• You’ll find that the focus is on you – your individual ambition and talent, your professional and personal development
• If studying our Degree, there’s an exciting option for you to study part of the program at one of our other locations like Shanghai, Singapore, Beijing or Mumbai
• We’ve been around for nearly 30 years, keeping pace with industry, delivering excellent courses and producing graduates who are well respected and successful in their creative careers
• Your time with us will equip you with a strong set of skills and the ability to keep learning, enabling you to enter the workforce confidently and continue to grow and develop as the industry – and your career - advances
• Our campus is bright and spacious. It’s also practically on top of North Sydney train station
• You may be eligible to apply for FEE-help to assist with course fees if undertaking the degree
(see www.goingtouni.gov.au)

We look forward to you joining us on Open Day.

More info:
Ph: 9922 4278 Email: kvbadmin@kvb.edu.au Web: www.kvb.edu.au




Raffles KvB Institute trading as KvB Institute of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 02761J
NTIS Provider Code: 91240 ABN: 86 106 888 900
 
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politik said:
*Blah, Blah, Blah, some plug for a useless expensive course somewhere at an institution that won't give you a credible qualification, even if you HD everything, mostly because said industry doesn't need a degree, just knowledge of the software and a portfolio, etc*
a) KvB and Billy Blue are more recognised qualifications, particularly now both are offering Bachelor degrees, since they concentrate on a far more practical basis than universities do.

b) You'd know all about the 'industry' being a specialist in the field wouldn't you. Sure helped you in passing those computing classes didn't it?
 

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politik said:
I'm of the opinion that getting anywhere in Graphic Design doesn't require paying out of pocket for a degree of any sort, when such an industry doesn't need a professional qualification to do so. But sure, why argue with you?
And this is because you've obviously got all the necessary skills to do everything now right? Because you couldn't possibly learn any new skills because you HAVE been featured on devart. No?

Getting anywhere in graphic design DOESNT require you paying out of your pocket, neither does any real job if you're keen enough, but it does make it easier and helps with interviews. Especially when you consider how difficult it is to establish yourself, the fact you can put forward a set of skills which have been assessed and critically marked sure does help. But I'm sure someone who obviously knows how to draw gradients already knows this right?

The industry isn't just reliant on kiddie-tutorial-reading designers anymore, they want you to be a multi-faceted designer who can do anything from project planning to troubleshooting and designing. These colleges and degrees equip those with the necessary skills with the theory they need to get beyond this step, THAT is why such degrees exist.
 

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You mean the words were too hard for you?
 

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So which one was wrong?

a) an industry specialist b) gradient maestro extraordinaire c) someone who got featured on devart?
 

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Ahh perfect now we got that sorted, would you refrain from giving your uninformed opinion on shit you have nfi about :)
 

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billy blue looks like a place for the rich mosman kids to laze about while living off their parents.

btw i work in northpoint where billy blue is.
 

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politik said:
*Blah, Blah, Blah, some plug for a useless expensive course somewhere at an institution that won't give you a credible qualification, even if you HD everything, mostly because said industry doesn't need a degree, just knowledge of the software and a portfolio, etc*
Actually KvB degrees are RTO and are registered and accredited with the Australian Board of Education and are also AQF. Also it doesnt cos HEAPS of money, and becauise it is a university equivelant degree you can pay it with HECS, AND you can also use it to qualify you at uni to get a masters degree or doctrine etc...so shutup and put a plug in it!

Obviously you are no industry expert or you would realise that you DO infact need a degree to make it anywhere in the industry. Sure there is the occasional person who gets their foot in the door without qualifications, but ultimately no qualification, no job (in this industry).
 
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politik said:
The Industry Specialist. I am teh winner at this, you know that.
Industry Specialist? In what, being a useless jerk?

since when does B ARTS B EC qualify you in the field of TV/Film, Multimedia, Digital Media, Design, Interior Design, Art Design, Photography, Fashion Design...Which is what KvB offers students.

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btw i work in northpoint where billy blue is.
OMG! it IS true then. You ARE an industry specialist, you DO know everything about these degrees because you work in the area.... it MUST be true then. OMG that means I'm an industry specialist in auto parts because I work near an auto service garage...IDIOT
 
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Being faced with a similar situation myself in regards to private institutions that charge big bucks for their degrees, (or make you highly liable later on) I have this advice for you:

Institutions like KvB make their money from people that are looking for something to do, and don't have any real desire to get the most out of their course. (Remember, it is in North Sydney) That's also true for people that want to get somewhere, but don't have any plans to attain that.

As it stands, you get out what you put in. Getting HD's doesn't necessarily mean you're a better student than the guy who's sitting beside you at graduation with a D or even C average, but has 20 contacts up his sleeves. It's up to you to get exposure and to go out there and trial out your knowledge with real-world projects, because, as much as they'd like to, KvB can't pick up the phone on your behalf and make your talents known to the world.

Oh, and be prepared to work late nights and stay back in the labs.
 

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Callistogenic said:
Institutions like KvB make their money from people that are looking for something to do, and don't have any real desire to get the most out of their course.
WRONG! not ALL people are like that a lot of people want to get the most out of their education, no matter what the institution, if they didnt want to get the most out of it then why bother paying for it... FYI most students at KvB (not just international but local students), pay out of their own pocket...i.e. not their parents. They are there because they WANT to be there.!

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As it stands, you get out what you put in.
Is this not with everything in life? I mean not just educaton

Callistogenic said:
Getting HD's doesn't necessarily mean you're a better student than the guy who's sitting beside you at graduation with a D or even C average, but has 20 contacts up his sleeves. It's up to you to get exposure and to go out there and trial out your knowledge with real-world projects, because, as much as they'd like to, KvB can't pick up the phone on your behalf and make your talents known to the world.
again this is with ANY course, even if you were at uni you'd be faced with the same challenge of having to find work through contacts that you have to make yourself, as it stands MOST of the lecturers (at KvB) in fact have contacts and often reccomend students for jobs, I know this because I am one of many who has landed freelance jobs from people lecturers know.

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Oh, and be prepared to work late nights and stay back in the labs.
Ummmmmmm.... yeah like most jobs are like that, and if it werent for people like that.... why you wouldnt have BoS right now. I'd like to remind you that you and I do similar courses and therefore you are just pwning yourself in the above statement if the intention was to make multimedia jobs etc seem painful... arent all jobs painful?

Your argument is painful, not to mention pityful and lacks research...GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
 

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Whoa, whoa. Slow down, I didn't intend to be flamed. There is SOME truth in my argument.

If not at KvB then perhaps another private institution? Think about where KvB is situated. It's a money-magnet and runs like a business!

Oh and FYI:
I bailed out of the BA(Digital) because the industry is becoming saturated. With my experiences at the CNMA and while freelancing, I can say that while I don't have the degree, my workflows and procedures have a better standing in industry than yours do. I've seen your work, and I honestly don't think that you could attain an industry-standard position at this point in time in any creative firm. Period. However, I'm willing to be proved wrong. If you're able to do such things, let's see you using industry-standard software, procedures and equipment. (I'm talking about Macs with Final Cut Studio and Shake instead of your 'homebrewed' PC solutions. Premiere Pro is a joke.)

Are you a registered Pro-apps user? That'd be a good starting point, Flip. Being a Mac user has its distinct advantages, considering that they are the industries' standard. Tell me when your PC can support a graphics card capable of driving twin-30" displays and 512MB of GDDR3 memory (a workstation-class graphics card, mind) and I'll get back to you.

By the way, that last comment I made about the labs? That was in regards to working towards a degree only.

Have a nice day.
 

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These places are amazing for networking. As for me, there's no way I can afford these colleges - merely based on networking, and I get loads of graphic design business sent my way anyway, I started in the professional industry in 2004 with a photography company in their commercial portfolio section. Though my first university preference is a Visual Communications degree....
 

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Callistogenic said:
Whoa, whoa. Slow down, I didn't intend to be flamed. There is SOME truth in my argument.

I've seen your work, and I honestly don't think that you could attain an industry-standard position at this point in time in any creative firm. Period. However, I'm willing to be proved wrong. If you're able to do such things, let's see you using industry-standard software, procedures and equipment. (I'm talking about Macs with Final Cut Studio and Shake instead of your 'homebrewed' PC solutions. Premiere Pro is a joke.)
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FUCK YOU! you havent seen my work and wtf premier pro? I dont use that. Ive been studying for a year and a half and Ive already done work for

Jane Goodall Institute

Uganda Wildlife Association

Taronga Zoo

HorrowWood Manniquines

Starlight Foundation

The Independant Blood Group

Epiphany

Lumina Magazine

VAIG studios (still doing stuff for)


SO SHUT THE FUCK UP LOSER WHO HAS NO WORK AND COULDNT EVEN GET INTO UNI... you wanan talk about work seeing? Ive seen yours...now I wont be mean and say that its crap, but IMO I dont like it... but thast opinion based... Ive been in the industry loger than you and Ive had more industry experience... who are you to tell me if Im good or not?
 

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luscious-llama said:
These places are amazing for networking. As for me, there's no way I can afford these colleges - merely based on networking, and I get loads of graphic design business sent my way anyway, I started in the professional industry in 2004 with a photography company in their commercial portfolio section. Though my first university preference is a Visual Communications degree....
cool! yeah, a lot of the work Ive been getting is network based and they havent needed to see a portfolio. Thats awesome though *thumbs up*
 

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Musk said:
A fine example of a KvB student
As a posed to a person whomb everyone hated at work? hmmmm? did you know that everyone at work still makes fun of you beihind your back, and that they draw pictures of you?...at least Im well respected where I work *cough* employee of the month *cough*
 

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Musk said:
Compared to an individual who should realise that working in an temporary enviorment's status is pretty much stupid and that ppl such as myself do not care for the simple fact that you need to use that dirty card
as opposed to being just plain dirty?

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