i think every single past hsc exam for the last 10 (at least) years have had a decentish to hard probability question.
check them out.
kurt, is that 16!/4! x 4! x 4! x 4! x 4!
16! ways of arranging the students, divided by 4( 4!) to disregard permutations of the same 4 people in a van, then divide it by another 4! because you have 4 vans and it doesnt matter which van the same 4 people are in?