networking 2 computers (2 Viewers)

[freaking_out]

i have two computers both with xp and both with network cards on...what is the fastest and best way to network them both...without spending any more money..

 

[JRasnier]

Buy a special cat5 cable called cross-over cable....then just plug it into both of your pcs

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by JRasnier
Buy a special cat5 cable called cross-over cable....then just plug it into both of your pcs

Yep, fast, easy, you don't have to spend "that much" in comparison to other methods/alternative ways.

Great for file sharing between 2 computers, if you have more then it becomes 'a little more' complicated and expensive

 

[Winston]

dont forget to run Windows XP Home Networking Wizard and make sure while youd doing that the workgroup names are identical

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Huy
Yep, fast, easy, you don't have to spend "that much" in comparison to other methods/alternative ways.

Great for file sharing between 2 computers, if you have more then it becomes 'a little more' complicated and expensive

hey, would i b also able 2 play games, and use printer, share internet etc.?

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by JRasnier
Buy a special cat5 cable called cross-over cable....then just plug it into both of your pcs

is this any different to the one i have:

"category 5E, UTP PATCH CORD"???

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by freaking_out
hey, would i b also able 2 play games, and use printer, share internet etc.?

Yes for games and Internet sharing.

I've never had to print through a network before, but I would imagine it works.

PC1 --> PC2
...|
...|
...|
PRINTER

Printing from PC2, through PC1, which is connected to the Printer itself.

Originally posted by freaking_out
is this any different to the one i have:

"category 5E, UTP PATCH CORD"???

You need a cross-over cable.

This is just a standard network cable.

Cross over cable
2 metres $5
5M $10
10M $20
15M $25

M denotes the length in metres (just in case you were confused )

Network cable
2 metres $5
5M $10
10M $15
15M $20
20M $25

Prices taken from www.umart.com.au

You want to purchase cross over cables, what you have are network cables.

 

[Winston]

Grab them from your local tandy or dicksmith or computer store, they dont cost much depending on the length you buy. Yes printing is as easy as 1-2-3, just attach the printer on either computer, share it, and it should be usable by either nodes. You can certainly play games, sharing internet is much a breeze, all you need to do is right click on your Internet connection in your Network Connections ( Right Click on My network places on desktop and go to properties) , then go to properties, there should be a tab called "Internet connection sharing" ICS, just tick the check box and you should be all set

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Huy
Yes for games and Internet sharing.

I've never had to print through a network before, but I would imagine it works.

PC1 --> PC2
...|
...|
...|
PRINTER

Printing from PC2, through PC1, which is connected to the Printer itself.


You need a cross-over cable.

This is just a standard network cable.

Cross over cable
2 metres $5
5M $10
10M $20
15M $25

M denotes the length in metres (just in case you were confused )

Network cable
2 metres $5
5M $10
10M $15
15M $20
20M $25

Prices taken from www.umart.com.au

You want to purchase cross over cables, what you have are network cables.

i don't get it, what is the difference between the two cables??? i mean physically...i imagine they must look very similiar since the crossover cable has to fit at the back of both computers like the network cable did...

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by freaking_out
i don't get it, what is the difference between the two cables??? i mean physically...i imagine they must look very similiar since the crossover cable has to fit at the back of both computers like the network cable did...

appearance side, no difference at all, but it's the wiring inside it that makes a difference, this is the only form of network cable which allows two nodes (PC's) to be networked without the aid of a server or a network hub/switch. As you are obviously setting up a P2P network, that's the cable that actually allows you to do so.

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Winston
appearance side, no difference at all, but it's the wiring inside it that makes a difference, this is the only form of network cable which allows two nodes (PC's) to be networked without the aid of a server or a network hub/switch. As you are obviously setting up a P2P network, that's the cable that actually allows you to do so.

shit....i have a probl. now, i used the network cables as if they were cross over and set it up with the wizard etc. for both comps...so what do i do to uninstall??? or can i just plug in a cross over cable when i get it??

 

[Winston]

Yes you can, they won't affect your PC in anyway, you just get this little icon in the system tray (near the clock), that shows a computer with an X on it, meaning the network is not connected

it's all good now, but once you get your cross over cable, plug it in, and see if it works, if not, then run the wizard again

it's very very self explanatory, if you got any questions you can IM me on MSN Messenger on:

winnyston_z@hotmail.com

or you can ask Huy, the one who designs computers

 

[Huy]

You're not supposed to use network cables, but if you've created a new network, you can always delete or re-configure the connection at a later date.

If (for some reason) you have created a new network connection (it is usually called "Local Area Connection"), then you can re-configure TCP/IP in the network properties.

But I shouldn't worry, just purchase cross-over cables and plug them in, run the wizard again (as Winston has stated), and all should be well.

Don't worry too much if you've used the wrong cable (well, you shouldn't have "tried/tested" it at all, but that's not the issue here).

So get your (new) cables, run the network setup wizard, and bob's your uncle

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by Huy
and bob's your uncle

FFS lol i hate that quote...


anyways as Mr.Whiz Kid has stated, which sounds a tad confusing, if your not as computer savvy as you are ... basically the Wizard just helps new users set the configuration of a network without the need of you to touch the settings, for example to setup a basic P2P network manually, you'll need to have the workgroup name identical, the subnet address the same, and the first 3 places of the IP to be the same and the last to be different for example

Computer 1:

IP: 192.168.0.1
SUBNET: 255.255.255.0

Computer 2:

IP: 192.168.0.2
SUBNET: 255.255.255.0


instead of you having to add that into the network connections dialog, the wizard automatically helps you plug this data in

just a little explanation as to what the wizard does for you, so don't fret, the wizard does no harm to your computers normal functions.

And i hope we have answered all your questions, if you have any other questions please feel free to ask

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Winston
... And i hope we have answered all your questions, if you have any other questions please feel free to ask

thanx guys for your help...bfore this i was gonna ask some one to do this but the guy was asking $50 for it... and oh yeah...bob is my uncle.

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by freaking_out
thanx guys for your help...bfore this i was gonna ask some one to do this but the guy was asking $50 for it... and oh yeah...bob is my uncle.

$50 to do it?
I need a job in the IT industry! Haha, that's just a rip off freaking_out. I wouldn't ask for more than $15 for the required/necessary cabling (with a few metres to spare, in case you need to expand in the future) and $1 for a bottle of water for me

Winston, but Bob IS my uncle!

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by Huy
$50 to do it?
I need a job in the IT industry! Haha, that's just a rip off freaking_out. I wouldn't ask for more than $15 for the required/necessary cabling (with a few metres to spare, in case you need to expand in the future) and $1 for a bottle of water for me

Winston, but Bob IS my uncle!

argghh u two PeNIS's

lol jks...

hell i need one too man

i was lining up in harvey norman and i happen to see their maintenace pricelist and get this


--->> 1) Install New CD-ROM Drive $ 237


i'm like omg i can do that in the toilet while i chuck my number 2!!
fuck..

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Winston
...
i'm like omg i can do that in the toilet while i chuck my number 2!!
fuck..

let us b a bit more realistic...

yeah, anyway my two computers are right next to each other...no need for cabling as well....so ur a rip off as well Huy.

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by freaking_out
my two computers are right next to each other...no need for cabling as well...

"No need for cabling"

What are you, setting up a wireless network there? Do you have a 802.11g base station? (54Mbps)

Now who's the ripoff!

You'll be needing at least 2m of cabling, if not 5 for later expansion/future growth. (You might want to host a LAN in the future, who knows, I have about 20m of cabling to spare on each node/computer)

 

[freaking_out]

Originally posted by Huy
"No need for cabling"

What are you, setting up a wireless network there? Do you have a 802.11g base station? (54Mbps)

Now who's the ripoff!

You'll be needing at least 2m of cabling, if not 5 for later expansion/future growth. (You might want to host a LAN in the future, who knows, I have about 20m of cabling to spare on each node/computer)

no thats no what i meant..:mad1: