Q. about UAI Determination and Year 10 Cohort (1 Viewer)

[Sparcod]

I still don't get this part,even though I've heard it a million times over and over. I quote...

...is to determine what the percentiles would have been if students in their year 10 cohort completed year 12 and were eligible for the UAI.

So even the dropouts r included?

 

[SoulSearcher]

Yeah, people who left school in year 10 will still be included in that determination process.

 

[Sparcod]

K, so why do they use year 10- is that to compare the year 10s of last year, year before and so on?

 

[angmor]

so that means when i get a uai, im also competing against people who dropped out in year10 when I did year10?, or last year's yr 10?

 

[Riviet]

so that means when i get a uai, im also competing against people who dropped out in year10 when I did year10?, or last year's yr 10?

You're competing against the people who dropped out in year 10 in the same year as you.

 

[volition]

The yr10's get shoved in at the bottom though don't they? It'd be pretty sad if someone's yr 10 marks beat some other persons yr 12 marks

 

[SoulSearcher]

Yeah, that's what happens to the year 10 guys.

 

[Sparcod]

So when calculating the UAI, they look at us when we were in year 10 right?

 

[DeathB4Life]

they dont look at your SC marks, they just count how many people dropped out.

think:
99% of year 10s drop out and only 1% continue to do the HSC. lets say you do the HSC and end up at the bottom of that 1%. that group is generally going to be fairly bright so it wont disadvantage you too much since you would have probably beaten most of the other 99% of the cohort if they continued on (ok well just assume year 10 dropouts = "not too bright")

 

[angmor]

do they count how many people drop out in your school cohort? or you mean the whole state?

 

[DeathB4Life]

state

 

[yankyfly]

Just take for example 40% of the poeple in the state dropped out after year 10 (obviously it wouldn't be as high as forty). That means that even if you come last in the entire state in year 12, the lowest UAI you can get is 40. The dropouts just get shoved right at the bottom of the scale, and everyone gets spread across the remained UAI's.

 

[Sparcod]

Huh?
So in reality, you are ranked accordingly in relation to your cohort..(the dropouts are considered as part of your cohort). So how do you know whether they are smarter than you or not?

 

[DeathB4Life]

because its well known fact that year 10 dropouts are failures and would have scored well below the lowest scoring student who actually completed the HSC