• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

Report warns of climate catastrophe (1 Viewer)

hatty

Banned
Joined
Dec 14, 2003
Messages
1,169
Location
I am the one
Leaked Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war: report


http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=climate_change

LONDON (AFP) - A secret report prepared by the Pentagon warns that climate change may lead to global catastrophe costing millions of lives and is a far greater threat than terrorism.


The report was ordered by an influential US Pentagon advisor but was covered up by "US defense chiefs" for four months, until it was "obtained" by the British weekly The Observer.


The leak promises to draw angry attention to US environmental and military policies, following Washington's rejection of the Kyoto Protocol on climate change and President George W. Bush 's skepticism about global warning -- a stance that has stunned scientists worldwide.


The Pentagon report, commissioned by Andrew Marshall, predicts that "abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies," The Observer reported.


The report, quoted in the paper, concluded: "Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life.... Once again, warfare would define human life."


Its authors -- Peter Schwartz, a CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of Global Business Network based in California -- said climate change should be considered "immediately" as a top political and military issue.


It "should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern", they were quoted as saying.


Some examples given of probable scenarios in the dramatic report include:


-- Britain will have winters similar to those in current-day Siberia as European temperatures drop off radically by 2020.


-- by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California


-- Europe and the United States become "virtual fortresses" trying to keep out millions of migrants whose homelands have been wiped out by rising sea levels or made unfarmable by drought.


-- "catastrophic" shortages of potable water and energy will lead to widespread war by 2020.


Randall, one of the authors, called his findings "depressing stuff" and warned that it might even be too late to prevent future disasters.


"We don't know exactly where we are in the process. It could start tomorrow and we would not know for another five years," he told the paper.


Experts familiar with the report told the newspaper that the threat to global stability "vastly eclipses that of terrorism".


Taking environmental pollution and climate change into account in political and military strategy is a new, complicated and necessary challenge for leaders, Randall said.


"It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy to point your guns at and we have no control over the threat," he said.


Coming from the Pentagon, normally a bastion of conservative politics, the report is expected to bring environmental issues to the fore in the US presidential race.

Last week the Union of Concerned Scientists, an influential and non-partisan group that includes 20 Nobel laureates, accused the Bush administration of having deliberately distorted scientific fact to serve its policy agenda and having "misled the public".

Its 38-page report, which it said took over a year to prepare and was not time to coincide with the campaign season, details how Washington "systematically" skewed government scientific studies, suppressed others, stacked panels with political and unqualified appointees and often refused to seek independent expertise on issues.

Critics of the report quoted by the New York Times denied there was deliberate misrepresentation and called it politically motivated.

The person behind the leaked Pentagon report, Andrew Marsall, cannot be accused of the same partisan politicking.

Marsall, 82, has been an advisor for the defense department for decades, and was described by The Observer as the author of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's plans for a major transformation of the US military.



------------------------------------
------------------------------------

some pretty disturbing shit here.

what are ur oppinions on this
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2004
Messages
629
Location
America
It has never been proven that humans are the actual cause of global warming. The world does naturally undergo warming/cooling (e.g. the Ice Age).
 

Alexander

Gold Member
Joined
May 18, 2003
Messages
383
Location
Whitehall
Im pretty sure it has been proven ....lots.
Australia's been on about this for ages, some sort of major world catastrophy and the need to develop chemical weapons to make sure we aren't swamped with immigrants.
But Iv'e always found SOME comfort in the fact that no major implications of warming will occur during our lifetimes, while we can meanwhile move to another planet...

but yeah...are you sure you didnt get this from hollywood? :(
 

Enlightened_One

King of Bullshit
Joined
Oct 28, 2003
Messages
1,105
Location
around about here - still
Gender
Male
HSC
2004
Well, the future looks shit. We could use this document to justify banning immigration and buying more weapons, as well as protecting our farm industries.
We ought to get more food and wepaons, stop letting people in so we can horde our resources and survive the future.
And then we can undergo the whole post apocolyptic phase. It'll be like all those the future is stuffed movies.
Meanwhile I shall begin building my deep under ground shelter and stock piling can foods.

Honestly, the report sounds a little far fetched. Besides there is no mention of Australia. The end of the world is coming and still we don't get a mention.
Global warming, I think, is a sort of natural thing for the Earth. It'll happen slowly and we'll all just adapt.

And if in ten years we are all starving and at war I'll admit I was wrong.

Midn you it does explain the recent heatwaves we've been having.
 

Generator

Active Member
Joined
Jul 26, 2002
Messages
5,244
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
It is like any other debate... Each side of the debate claims that it has the ability to 'prove' that they are correct, yet the debate continues regardless... Besides, it is not as though the global warming problem is only being recognised as a potential threat now that this report has been 'leaked'.
 

Iunny

Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2003
Messages
220
How does the Observer gets it in the first place?

Is it probable that the Pentagon will leak reports?
 

Josie

Everything's perfect!
Joined
Nov 24, 2003
Messages
1,340
Location
Wollongong
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
Its leaked to a *British* newspaper. The Observer of all papers!
Last week we had Osama surrounded and about to get caught by one of these wonderful British newspapers, leaked by an American source......

Must be the same source the Americans used.... that Iraqi that was never interviewed by anyone..
 

AsyLum

Premium Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Messages
15,899
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
THe future looks shit....

...well lets start by getting australia's head out of america's ass, should fix that problem right away
 

Blackalicious

.................
Joined
Oct 7, 2003
Messages
202
Location
B&G
Gender
Female
HSC
2004
Originally posted by George W. Bush
It has never been proven that humans are the actual cause of global warming. The world does naturally undergo warming/cooling (e.g. the Ice Age).
Only a dickhead like George W Bush would say something like that :p
 

Frigid

LLB (Hons)
Joined
Nov 17, 2002
Messages
6,208
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
Originally posted by George W. Bush
So, is like, the part where you proved me wrong in invisible text?
howabout the part about your ownership of oil companies which contribute to the greenhouse effect, mr. president?
 

Frigid

LLB (Hons)
Joined
Nov 17, 2002
Messages
6,208
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
Originally posted by George W. Bush
that President! and see above.
okay, mr. President. may congress be reminded of the fact that your major source of income was, for some two decades, from Texan oil, am i correct?

and what was this oil, this FOSSIL FUEL, used for, may i ask? don't tell me wishy-washy excuses like to improve the US economy, or to fatten the pockets of your kind, but rather TO POLLUTE THE ENVIRONMENT!!!; to release their foul, poisonous greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, accelerating and increasing the greenhouse effect, whereby the ambient temperature of OUR (that is, not only yours, but mine also) planet, melting OUR icecaps, increasing the sea levels, irreversibly changing the weather patterns on this planet, OUR home, forever...

now i wrong to say, my fellow congressmen, that this President is in fact a failure? a failure to protect this planet? to protect our future existence? sure, we might live today safe and be protected from Saddam Hussein and his kind, yet from terrorists, and threats greater than terrorists, that is, environmental apocalypse, this President has time and time again proven his impotency and ineffectiveness. shame on you.
 
Last edited:

johnson

a lack of colour
Joined
Jul 16, 2002
Messages
1,420
Location
the hills
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
Originally posted by Josie
Its leaked to a *British* newspaper. The Observer of all papers!
Last week we had Osama surrounded and about to get caught by one of these wonderful British newspapers, leaked by an American source......
yeah, i love how it's "the observer" which has written this 'article'. isn't it like the british version of our 'daily telegraph'...
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2004
Messages
629
Location
America
All I ask is for someone to present to me some real evidence that human activity is causing global warming, and it isn't the general trend of fluctuations in global temperature.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top