students with 90+........help (2 Viewers)

[doingHSC]

how do u study for physics..........like what book do u use ( if u just use excell is that good enough 4 HSC)?

thanks

 

[mystify]

I havent done the Physics HSC yet but i can tell you on behalf of those 90+ students that the Excel HSC isnt enough, however it is good as a quick overview once you've thoroughly studied your detailed notes and checked off every syllabus point. Ive heard that Jacaranda HSC physics is excellent so i'll be using that soon. My advice is to sit down, make your own notes using a variety of sources (txt books, other notes, etc.), understand and learn them and use Excel as to 'recap'. Good luck

 

[Heinz]

Im yet to do the HSC but i should be getting over 90 cos of i secrured top rank at school (not trying to sound cocky or anything). Basically when you study for physics, you rarely use any text book. By now you should have compiled a concise summary of everything using info you read from all the textbooks you can get your hands onto. These notes are what you use to study. Of course, most of the stuff should still be fresh in your mind cos of the trials, so all you're doing is past papers in addition to reading your notes every couple of days (this should only take you 10 minues at most). Well, thats what i do for phys anyway.

 

[Skywalker]

I didn't use notes in physics and from what I can gather neither did many of my friends in med. It might sound a bit cliched on this board, but honestly, Jacaranda is enough to get you 95+.

Oh and do trial papers too, though remember that a lot of the questions in there are not written HSC style. It's just the content you want, not the wording of the question etc.

And Heinze - reading notes in 10 minutes? They can't be that comprehensive if you can go through them that quickly. Remember that you need to have memorised essays for questions like "What is the impact of transformers on society" (i.e. humanities questions).

 

[Heinz]

And Heinze - reading notes in 10 minutes? They can't be that comprehensive if you can go through them that quickly. Remember that you need to have memorised essays for questions like "What is the impact of transformers on society" (i.e. humanities questions).

Well when youve read something for the 30th time, you dont tend to read it word for word. If its your own work as well, youll know whats coming up so 10 minutes isnt that bad (well, it might be 20 now that i think about it ;p). Dont really pay attention to the time, just do it before i go to bed.

 

[Tommy_Lamp]

i disagree that you need to know memorised essays or long answers.
Thats one thing that the Board say you shouldnt do, because questions are becoming less about exact syllabus point questions and more about applying knowledge that you know.
Its much better to know all the fundamentals and then apply them to the question that is being asked.

I personally use just the excel book but also alot of online resources

 

[doingHSC]

thx guys u've been alot help. I'll buy Jacaranda soon

btw I was looking through Macmillan and i don't really like it that much cos it has some useless stuff you dont need

thanks again

 

[steph@nie]

I didn't use notes in physics and from what I can gather neither did many of my friends in med. It might sound a bit cliched on this board, but honestly, Jacaranda is enough to get you 95+.

Oh and do trial papers too, though remember that a lot of the questions in there are not written HSC style. It's just the content you want, not the wording of the question etc.

And Heinze - reading notes in 10 minutes? They can't be that comprehensive if you can go through them that quickly. Remember that you need to have memorised essays for questions like "What is the impact of transformers on society" (i.e. humanities questions).

I've got Jacaranda and I don't appreciate it very much. I use a lot more online resources and notes from other books from my teacher than I do Jacaranda. I'm doing syllabus notes, point by point because I find that easier to learn from for physics, however, other subjects I use mind maps.. Its just what works best for you for a particular subject I think.

 

[tempco]

Jacaranda is really good, albeit slightly overboard in some areas... I've moulded my notes around the text book alone, and their quite comprehensive.

As for other text books, can't be much help since I've never touched another text book

 

[Li0n]

I hate jacaranda because its too fat and heavy, (yes im that lazy).
the macmillan one is fat, but they paper they use is alittle lighter.

 

[redruM]

do the whole success one book and you should be fine.
i wish i had done that...

 

[Li0n]

yeah they use light paper too

 

[Skywalker]

i disagree that you need to know memorised essays or long answers.

Well, you go sit your HSC first and then we'll come back and talk about that.

 

[Li0n]

Well, you go sit your HSC first and then we'll come back and talk about that.

shut down....

 

[xiao1985]

shut down....

lolz... hate to say this, but meh, i didn't remember any essays and it turned out that my hsc is not as good as skywalkers...

u never know tho, there might be pplz who dont' remmber essays who still turn out to have a good uai...

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

u may not have to memorise essays... but u do have to approach most questions like essays....

but then memorising is what you do when learning stuff anyway, its not as if you are actively memorising it...

 

[Jase]

memorised essays and responses are for lazy minds ( such as myself). That's not to say its not smart, on the contrary. Even when you fully understand things, it's still hard to put it all into your own words. .. wait, why is this thread about essays?

I think physics is all about writing out dot points. For 5 mark questions, write out at least 5 points and join them together with random conjunctions such as "and", "or", "but".
Almost as bad as English responses...

But anyway, never stick to one textbook. The art of success is obtained by approaching all accounts, and sythesising your very own physics textbook. (not really)
I use about 6 books, sometimes they all tell me different things. (especially concerning the exclusion principle, i've seen - no MORE than two electrons, NO two electrons, and no ONE electron pair, can share same state e.t.c.)
go get a physics in context. as well as a jacaranda

 

[t-i-m-m-y]

well well getting 90+ in physics is not about the book you use. Its about how you use the book, and probably more importantly, is how you structure your study, the techniques you use, and last, but not least of all, use your brain.

Sounds stupid, but in practice- well its not that easy.

Maybe I should update my studying for science subjects threads but this is how I got 90+ in physics so I'm 'qualified' to say so, although theres lots of other people with marks betta than mine.
1. Pay attention in class. Ask your teacher questions if you're stuck
2. Write notes, according to the syllabus
3. Do practice questions

Also you should keep re-evaluating how you are going. Obviously if you evaluate yourself now, school is more or less finished, and the last stretch to the HSC is essentially all up to you. So, make sure you understand everything (I strongly recommend not memorising), and do lots of practice questions

Good luck

Jase: exclusion principle, developed by Pauli says: no two electrons can occupy the same four quantum numbers, thats it in essence. the textbooks interpret it differently, but basically the four quantum numbers denote the following:
- principle quantum number: think chemistry shell 1 etc
- one that describes subshell- s, p, d, f
- one that describes orientation of the orbital
- electron spin up or down
basically two electrons can have the same first three quantum numbers, but they must have opposite spins.

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

yeah listen to timmy he knows what hes talking about

memorised essays and responses are for lazy minds ( such as myself). That's not to say its not smart, on the contrary. Even when you fully understand things, it's still hard to put it all into your own words. .. wait, why is this thread about essays?

i doubt anyone truly fully comprehends the topics covered as opposed to just regurgitating text books at some level..... especially without any foundation stuff being laid before diving into quantum mechanics, superconductors etc.... regurgitations > comprehension

in the example of the exclusion principle above, all the text books are actually saying the same thing... just phrased differently using different terminology... not that the book actually explains their use of it... characteristic of the whole course really

 

[t-i-m-m-y]

I reckon its better to at least understand ALL the stuff in the syllabus, rather than just memorising....What happens when you forgot the fifteenth word of the third line in the second paragraph of the third quadrant of the first of many pages..?

Jase: I disagree.. If you understand, you should be able to explain it clearly. If you can't, I reckon you never really understood it in the first place.