UWS medicine (1 Viewer)

[clairegirl]

When's it open and stuff?


If i got into medicine as a post grad, ide want to do it there, a lot closer

 

[inasero]

in the distant future 07-08?...but yeah if its postgrad as u say, then you might not have to wait too long at all since u can do a degree in the meantime

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

kewl its close to my home.. hmm how soon can u teach after u graduate from the MBBS??

 

[Lexicographer]

You want to teach?

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

You want to teach?

yes why u think im not responsible enuf ????
pfft

its the greatest joy in life.. to impart and inspire

 

[Estel]

its the greatest joy in life.. to impart and inspire

... said the Teach.NSW book to the little children...

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

but academics pay is significantly better than a NSW teacher..
and i can work at hospital too

 

[Lexicographer]

Hey that's not a bad idea actually. I wonder how the Newcastle interview people would look at that specialty aspiration.

 

[mr EaZy]

lol....... teach!

well, i always say that a good student makes a good teacher!

 

[Estel]

But does teaching go anywhere... would be bummy to do the same thing in and out over and over for years and years....

 

[clairegirl]

lol no! coz lecturers are usually researchers too!!

i'de love that job...!!

 

[Lexicographer]

Research isn't always interesting. In fact most of the time it's nasty tedious, and researchers spend their lives waiting for that one brilliant flash when they discover something interesting...many die without ever experiencing it.

 

[Bob.J]

but academics pay is significantly better than a NSW teacher..
and i can work at hospital too

actually i don't know anymore. Depends on the position you take at a uni. I saw physics job openings (for a lecturing position) and they were offering 70-90k per annum. This is opposed to a HS teacher who will earn up to $60k a year (i think it was after 15 years of teaching? my info is old, teacher told me this 5 years ago) and a principal earns 80-90kish?. Also an academic must hand in research papers and stuff. Whereas a school teacher could just bum off in the holidays.
But then again I saw a senior research position in some biomed faculty offering 200k+.

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

at uni our tutors are paid as much as GP's an hour
lecturers are the same

 

[Lexicographer]

Consider how many run of the mill academics there are compared to run of the mill teachers. A principal is comparable to an associate professor - not an easy title to come by. The pay for an AProf is WAY higher too, and you get more research options. Far more personally fulfilling than handling the administrative matters of a school whilst wrangling with outdated superiors in the DEST.

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

principals get about 80K atm

in med its easier to goto research cos well its so broad and teachin is most fun when u enjoy it

 

[mr EaZy]

i know i professor at UNSW who turned down a 100K+ job to keep his position as a comp science teacher- its more rewarding i guess. the guy's family pressured him to take medicine coz his UAI was i think 99.95.... he says hes got no regrets coz, like i said he's doin somethin he loves i mean isnt that what a good working life should be all about?

 

[hipsta_jess]

This is the 2003 one, I can't find more recent, but personally, I don't think academic salaries are all that brilliant (strangely enough, neither do the academics, lol)

Academic Salary Rates - Effective 1 February 2003


Important Notes:
A successful candidate for a Level A position who possesses a PhD must be appointed to the 6th year salary at least.

Clinical Loadings are listed after Level E Salary rates.

Applicable on-costs are listed on the Financial Services home page.

Casual Rate: irregular hours, ie days and hours vary.


Enterprise Agreement Rate
$ Per Annum
LEVEL A (ASSOCIATE LECTURER)
1st step $37,823
2nd step $39,983
3rd step $42,144
4th step $44,306
5th step $46,062
6th step $47,818
7th step $49,574
8th step $51,329

LEVEL B (LECTURER)
1st step $54,031
2nd step $56,059
3rd step $58,083
4th step $60,112
5th step $62,136
6th step $64,164

LEVEL C (SENIOR LECTURER)
1st step $66,188
2nd step $68,216
3rd step $70,240
4th step $72,268
5th step $74,292
6th step $76,321

LEVEL D (ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR)
1st step $79,697
2nd step $82,397
3rd step $85,099
4th step $87,800

LEVEL E (PROFESSOR)
$102,661

Full Clinical Loading $17,771

Para Clinical Loading $11,862

Pre Clinical Loading $ 8,898

original source

 

[Lexicographer]

That's UNCLE's salary ladder eh? You're right, it isn't too flash.

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

i know i professor at UNSW who turned down a 100K+ job to keep his position as a comp science teacher- its more rewarding i guess. the guy's family pressured him to take medicine coz his UAI was i think 99.95.... he says hes got no regrets coz, like i said he's doin somethin he loves i mean isnt that what a good working life should be all about?

yer thats wat everyone should do
but med isnt overall well paying considerin the effort.. lik if u do well yr 10 could make u a rich man still

altho for 100K i would do med teaching only cos it keeps changing and is so new