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Your Objective: Learning or Marks? (1 Viewer)

Why do you go to uni?

  • Get a degree.

    Votes: 27 69.2%
  • Learn new 'things'.

    Votes: 12 30.8%

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Skittled

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Why do you go to uni?

(If you're going to vote, vote now because the below may change your opinions or thoughts about your own objectives...)

A recent psychology essay got me thinking about peoples' desires, and what they're looking for, and the long term/short term costs and benefits... It pretty much directly started talking about peoples' objectives, and whether it's to appear as something (which they're not really), or to really be and change into that something.

From there, reading the posts on here, and talking to people and remembering the HSC, education is largely about receiving marks for work done: once the marks are received, how much do we --or the educational system-- really care about whether we learn the content or not? Marks are an indicator of a 'learned' person, who, say, comes out of uni with a degree an a GPA of X, but do they still know and remember and apply and understand that knowledge? ...if not, they got fantastic marks in the short term, but the long term costs are that they're not really as knoledgable (and presumably employable) as their records/transcript suggests... which leads to career problems.

But then, you can have what the psych literature called 'learnign orientation': you want to learn, and apply, and integrate all your future knowledge into the knowledge you've now got, which is an integration of yesterday's learning, etc etc... all of which is done not with regard to marks, but to your personal learning... (but the marks follow, becuase you're learning in appropriate areas). However, obviously this has short term costs (a lot more work than, say, trying to second-guess that final exam essay question, or working out strategies to skimp on studying...), but has long term gains (much more knowledge, and all the things that flow from that).

So, essentially, I'm curious: why do you go to uni? To get your degree, or to learn new things?
 

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You know my answer Sweets. Remember, its one of the things you told me you love about me.


... And now everyone else will know because I'm the only one who has voted so far :D Go the "learnign orientation"! ;)

..But the GPA is nice to look at :D
 

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i go to uni to get my degree. i go attend what i have to then get the fuck outta there. i do the absolute bare minimum possible and get my p's.

but see uni just isn't that important to me. its very low on the list of priorities right now and my marks and effort i put in reflect that. i've said in other posts that uni barely exists for me......i don't do reading/work until the night before an essay's due or around about 3 days before exam.

it sounds really bad that i'm like that.....but i just want my degree. im not passionate about the subject matter in any of my courses except music.

i wanna make a living off of music.........but i know how incredibly hard that is.....so my law degree will be my backup plan. i mean in the end i just want a monotonous law firm office sorta job, like that movie office space. so then i can concentrate on other things.

hahaha how unambitious do i sound, but despite this i am extremely enthusiastic and ambitious and hard working for music. just uni not so much lol.
 

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if i have no further use [econ110/201] or have absolutely no interest [accg100/101], then im after marks [seconding guessing is heaps fun]. if i have some use or some interest [most units bar the above ones], then im after learning. with that said, i can't remember anything after a while whether i want to or not [besides addition, subtraction and colouring in and other basic skills]. in general, im after learning.

is there a none of the above option, cos im tired of learning and marks are overrated?
 
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The more I learn new things the more old things get thrown out.
 
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bscienceboi said:
The more I learn new things the more old things get thrown out.
Exactly, then suddenly I'm writing my name and contact details on my hand.

I'm going for a combination, although I'm really hating the intellectual masturbation (perfect term, asy) that is Philosophy.

My degree's divided into FUN: Ancient history, and, LESS FUN: Law :D
 
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bscienceboi said:
Like in the movie Memento...
Yeah, but noone will help me because I don't take my shirt off at the drop of a hat.
 

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it depends on teh subjects...its really a mixture of both...i want (Ds or HDs) and need (Cr in stat 171 min pass in the others) the marks, but i also want to learn something to, so i can actually apply it when working...therefore my objectives are a mix, leaning a little towards the marks side to actually get a job straight out of uni :p
 

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only those mature age students who r just passing time until death go 2 uni 2 learn new things

for me its the degree

no offence MQ, but if i could get my dream job without uni, i would be the playboy mansion already :D
 

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PwarYuex said:
Exactly, then suddenly I'm writing my name and contact

My degree's divided into FUN: Ancient history, and, LESS FUN: Law :D
hahaha i totally agree.

fun: music, and philosophy sometimes

absolutely no fun: law

fun and law should NEVER be placed in the same sentence together. oh wait, i just did that. well from now on they shouldn't be.
 

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Degree, for me Uni is all about getting the marks and the piece of paper at the end.

Luckily I have a degree-related job, where I believe the real learning occurs.
 

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umm both
im doing my degree at acu because i want to be a primary school teacher.. and im doing my certificate in languages at mq to learn something new
 
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cro_angel said:
umm both
im doing my degree at acu because i want to be a primary school teacher.. and im doing my certificate in languages at mq to learn something new
Oh, I didn't know you were doing a Cert. Languages! I thought it was weird that you were were doing a sub at mac...
 

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hehe yeh well its 4 subjects over 2 years to get the cert (basically 1 subject a semester which is done externally anyway).. or 8 subjects over 4 years if i want to go for the diploma (which i probably will.. nothing better to do)
 

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well 1st year i was looking for neither. i was just looking to pass cause they were random pre-req's for my 2nd year subs.

now that alot the stuff in 2nd year is more relevant to my career, im trying to actually remember and understand all the shite... anything higher than a P is a bonus ;p
 

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obviously both, i care about marks ... sorta... and after my degree's finished i actually need to know how to do my job properly dont i? so i needa learn :p

hehe i'd tick both
 

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Came for a degree and find myself learning new things and enjoying most of it.
Of course it'll be all forgotten in time...
 

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i put 'learn new things'. but then again, if i just wanted to do that then i would probably find less stressful ways of doing it. so both 'learn new things' and 'for a degree' are motivations. Ultimately though, learning is better because While marks are great, once you have a career its the stuff you have learned that will be the most useful. Marks are good up to a point, knowledge goes further.
 

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