Should all citizens have equal voting power? (2 Viewers)

[Boxes]

Personally, I think a homeless man who couldn't care less about who's running the country, and who really isn't all that affected by the leader's decisions should have less of a say in the country than say, for example, a company executive.

What do you think? Should we all really be on equal footing?

 

[spence]

We need some sort of test that determines how much voting power each person should have

 

[Boxes]

We need some sort of test that determines how much voting power each person should have

What should we base it on? I'm thinking wealth.

 

[44Ronin]

Personally, I think a homeless man who couldn't care less about who's running the country, and who really isn't all that affected by the leader's decisions should have less of a say in the country than say, for example, a company executive.

What do you think? Should we all really be on equal footing?

So disable the homeless from the political process, so they are even more unable to help themselves?

 

[44Ronin]

What should we base it on? I'm thinking wealth.

Great, society can be even more oligarchic and fucked up than it already is

 

[SylviaB]

So disable the homeless from the political process, so they are even more unable to help themselves?

Exactly: Help themselves.

They'r not going to give two shits about educational funding etc., only whose going to give them the most handouts.

Tbf tho it would impossible to calibrate voting power properly so wouldn't work.

 

[Absolutezero]

There is no fair way you could scale each individuals political importance. The system is alright in theory, but because of this scale, it can't work justly in practice.

 

[spence]

What should we base it on? I'm thinking wealth.

general intelligence and how well informed they are I guess. won't work in practice but it would be great in thoery

 

[quik.]

Do you think it should be a choice to vote, as opposed to current system being compulsory?

 

[Sir-BigBoyJames]

What should we base it on? I'm thinking wealth.

lol

 

[spence]

Do you think it should be a choice to vote, as opposed to current system being compulsory?

absolutely, compulsory voting is a terrible idea

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

We need some sort of test that determines how much voting power each person should have

Better yet, we should have a vote that determines how much power each individual gets. That way the power scale is fairly decided amongst the population.

 

[loquasagacious]

There is no fair way you could scale each individuals political importance. The system is alright in theory, but because of this scale, it can't work justly in practice.

It doesn't even work in theory.

In fact if a theory doesn't work in practice it suggests that the theory ignored key issues which had they been included would have ensured that it didn't work in theory either. Basically if an idea works in theory but not in practice you have a crap theory.

For example communism only works in theory if your theory ignores key issues like human nature, dead weight loss impacts of price controls, etc etc.

 

[Lentern]

Do we as it is? I'd much rather get to vote in Swan than where I do now, my vote would make a helluva lot more difference there.

 

[Iron]

My instinct is no, but my judgement is yes

 

[Silver Persian]

http://community.boredofstudies.org...politics/205984/meritocracy-vs-democracy.html

For related thread


In that context, no-one provided any argument against what spence says - test people for how well they understand political philosophy and the policies of the various parties, and then give them a certain number of voting points depending on how well they do.

 

[44Ronin]

In that context, no-one provided any argument against what spence says - test people for how well they understand political philosophy and the policies of the various parties, and then give them a certain number of voting points depending on how well they do.

How does understanding of political philosophy and policy make for a good voter? You can't even prove that it does or does not.

The concept of democratic voting is representational, not status quo.

Furthermore, who is going to judge how people understand political philosophy, when it is by nature, a relative and sometimes subjective concept?

I mean, all that will lead to is politically active people aiming to satisfy these arbitrary, biased and downright nonsense objectives in order to vote, and a lack of representation for people who are systematically or consequently denied such mickey mouse education in "How to be a good voter"

What a complete load of horse shit that is, Cobber

 

[Silver Persian]

How does understanding of political philosophy and policy make for a good voter?

The concept of democratic voting is representational, not status quo.

Furthermore, who is going to judge how people understand political philosophy?

I mean, all that will lead to is politically active people aiming to satisfy these arbitrary, biased and downright nonsense objectives in order to vote, and a lack of representation for people who are systematically or consequently denied such mickey mouse education in "How to be a good voter"

What a complete load of horse shit that is, Cobber

Q1) Should the govenment be spending x billion dollars in cash handouts?

If yes, three voting points deducted; if no, three voting points given.

Great system. I love.

 

[Riet]

Sentient beings.

 

[electrolysis]

so what if a homeless person gets a say, atleast its fair and everyone should get the opportunity to have a say in who runs the country

there are heaps of company executives out there who dont have a clue on politics, but they are freely allowed to vote, so what differentiates that executive to lets say, a homeless person?? atleast the homeless person has lived on a different side of society that most people dont even care about and hasnt received much government support.. of course that person should have a say, he/she should have equal opportunities to anyone else living in this country