Criminal Krudd to hand over our wealth (3 Viewers)

[slively03]

I don't know if the figures are actually half but it is a big issue. I don't think it is helpful to frame it as 'paying no tax' because that tends to cast it in a good light when it is actually a bad thing...

42.2 per cent.

Source : The tax-free middle class | The Australian

 

[will-anal]

I take offence at that. When I filled in my tax return I felt a little patriotic swell of pride in that i was doing my bit to help the less fortunate or to build roads or to help a nice kid go to school. I guess some people however don't think the unemployed deserve food, nor do people need roads or does little Jimmy deserve an education.

lol what the hell

When I lodge my tax return, I feel a great sense of GO FUCK YOURSELF GOVERNMENT because I know I'm only getting a small amount of tax back. I look at my pay slip and say go fuck yourself, because the money I earned working is being stolen off me

 

[slively03]

lol what the hell

When I lodge my tax return, I feel a great sense of GO FUCK YOURSELF GOVERNMENT because I know I'm only getting a small amount of tax back. I look at my pay slip and say go fuck yourself, because the money I earned working is being stolen off me

Don't you get a whole heap of government welfare and tax breaks like baby bonus, family tax benefit, etc etc etc

people with children and families benefit most from the tax system

 

[SylviaB]

when you think about it, tax is money you give to the government so they don't kidnap you and lock you up lol

 

[will-anal]

I don't get family tax benefit. I looked in to it at one point and I'm eligible for like, $42 a fortnight or something which isn't worth the effort involved dealing with Centrelink.

Yeah I got the baby bonus, but be reasonable. I've paid more than 4k in tax since I started working, and if the government is offering to give me 4k with no catch, who is going to say no?

I don't know what tax breaks you're talking about. I have to nominate that I have a dependent child when I submit my tax, but as far as I know I've never gotten a "break" because of this.

People with children and families don't really benefit, if these families include working parents who are paying tax, then effectively they're entitled to whatever money they can scam back from the government.

 

[slively03]

I don't get family tax benefit. I looked in to it at one point and I'm eligible for like, $42 a fortnight or something which isn't worth the effort involved dealing with Centrelink.

Yeah I got the baby bonus, but be reasonable. I've paid more than 4k in tax since I started working, and if the government is offering to give me 4k with no catch, who is going to say no?

I don't know what tax breaks you're talking about. I have to nominate that I have a dependent child when I submit my tax, but as far as I know I've never gotten a "break" because of this.

People with children and families don't really benefit, if these families include working parents who are paying tax, then effectively they're entitled to whatever money they can scam back from the government.

"Working families" are the primary benefactors of the Rudd and Howard government's pork barrelling.

Your tax burden isn't just quantified in terms of payments you get back, it's also used to cover things like roads, public transport, medicare and numerous socialised programs.

I would say that most middle class people pay no tax when you take into account these government services people use.

 

[slively03]

And as much as i am for limited government and lower taxes, I would suspect that if we gave people back all of their tax, they would be lobbying the government to 'do more'. I really think we have this perception in Australia that we can have it both ways.

 

[moll.]

when you think about it, tax is money you give to the government so they don't kidnap you and lock you up lol

I lolled hard at this.
"I'll pay your ransom! Just don't hurt me!"

 

[slively03]

I lolled hard at this.
"I'll pay your ransom! Just don't hurt me!"

Don't pay your taxes as a form of civil disobedience. It's the stuff revolutions are made of.

 

[moll.]

Personally, I don't think "revolutionary" is quite the right term for Paul Hogan.

 

[slively03]

Personally, I don't think "revolutionary" is quite the right term for Paul Hogan.

Oh really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)

Boston Tea Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[will-anal]

"Working families" are the primary benefactors of the Rudd and Howard government's pork barrelling.

Your tax burden isn't just quantified in terms of payments you get back, it's also used to cover things like roads, public transport, medicare and numerous socialised programs.

I would say that most middle class people pay no tax when you take into account these government services people use.

Scrap tax and privatise the roads/hospitals/etc

 

[slively03]

Scrap tax and privatise the roads/hospitals/etc

I'd love to see the politicians willing to vote for that.

 

[will-anal]

Fuck the politicians.

They're a bunch of squabbling children.

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

"Working families" are the primary benefactors of the Rudd and Howard government's pork barrelling.

Your tax burden isn't just quantified in terms of payments you get back, it's also used to cover things like roads, public transport, medicare and numerous socialised programs.

I would say that most middle class people pay no tax when you take into account these government services people use.

So if I take your money by force, but then use all the money to buy you groceries or something I think you will use, do you break even out of the whole thing?

Hey maybe people like choosing how they spend their own money, rather than the government giving them things they think they might like.

Especially with things like medicare, the biggest losers who get almost nothing back are sensible, healthy people who take good care of themselves.

 

[loquasagacious]

"Working families" are the primary benefactors of the Rudd and Howard government's pork barrelling.

Your tax burden isn't just quantified in terms of payments you get back, it's also used to cover things like roads, public transport, medicare and numerous socialised programs.

I would say that most middle class people pay no tax when you take into account these government services people use.

So because team freedom said you were an aspie you are going to try out for team statism?

 

[Mormador]

Scrap tax and privatise the roads/hospitals/etc

Move to the US imo. I'm sure you can get some supporters there for your crazy ideas. After all, they are pretty much the only Western country without universal healthcare.

 

[loquasagacious]

Move to the US imo. I'm sure you can get some supporters there for your crazy ideas. After all, they are pretty much the only Western country without universal healthcare.

Not for much longer under Chairman ObaMAO

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

Move to the US imo. I'm sure you can get some supporters there for your crazy ideas. After all, they are pretty much the only Western country without universal healthcare.

Perhaps that's why politicians from Canada and Europe that don't want to die waiting for the appalling public health care they support all fly to the US to get treatment.

 

[moll.]

Perhaps that's why politicians from Canada and Europe that don't want to die waiting for the appalling public health care they support all fly to the US to get treatment.

Or because they're all part of the 1% of the Western World who can actually afford surgery in the US.