Conics Help Please (1 Viewer)

goobi

Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2010
Messages
196
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Find the equations of the tangent and normal to the ellipse at the point .
If the tangent meets the x-axis at P and the normal meets the y-axis at Q, show that PQ touches the ellipse.

Edit:

So I've found the equation of the tangent:
......(1)

And the equation of the normal:
......(2)

Substituting y=0 into (1), P is

Substituting x=0 into (2), Q is

Gradient of PQ =

Therefore, equation of PQ is:

And I have no idea what to do next...

Any help would be appreciated :)
 
Last edited:

nightweaver066

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2010
Messages
1,585
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Find P by letting y = 0 in the tangent equation, P(2a, 0)

Find Q by letting x = 0 in the normal equation,

Find the equation of PQ.

Sub it in the equation of ellipse.

Discriminant = 0 (or factorise it in to a perfect square) therefore touches it.

Unsure if it's the quickest method.
 

goobi

Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2010
Messages
196
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Find P by letting y = 0 in the tangent equation, P(2a, 0)

Find Q by letting x = 0 in the normal equation,

Find the equation of PQ.

Sub it in the equation of ellipse.

Discriminant = 0 (or factorise it in to a perfect square) therefore touches it.

Unsure if it's the quickest method.
Thanks!
 
Last edited:

Aesytic

Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2011
Messages
141
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
the LHS isn't supposed to equal the RHS,
when you sub PQ into the ellipse, you'll get:
x^2 + 3*[(1/root3)*(x-2a)]^2 = 2a^2
x^2 + 3*[1/3*(x-2a)^2] = 2a^2
x^2 + (x-2a)^2 = 2a^2
x^2 + x^2 - 4ax + 4a^2 = 2a^2
2x^2 - 4ax + 2a^2 = 0
2(x^2 - 2ax + a^2) = 0
2(x-a)^2 = 0
since this eqn. has only one solution, there is only one point where PQ and the ellipse meet, .'. the line PQ is a tangent to the ellipse
 

goobi

Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2010
Messages
196
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
the LHS isn't supposed to equal the RHS,
when you sub PQ into the ellipse, you'll get:
x^2 + 3*[(1/root3)*(x-2a)]^2 = 2a^2
x^2 + 3*[1/3*(x-2a)^2] = 2a^2
x^2 + (x-2a)^2 = 2a^2
x^2 + x^2 - 4ax + 4a^2 = 2a^2
2x^2 - 4ax + 2a^2 = 0
2(x^2 - 2ax + a^2) = 0
2(x-a)^2 = 0
since this eqn. has only one solution, there is only one point where PQ and the ellipse meet, .'. the line PQ is a tangent to the ellipse
Repped.
 
Last edited:

math man

Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2009
Messages
503
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Find the equations of the tangent and normal to the ellipse at the point .
If the tangent meets the x-axis at P and the normal meets the y-axis at Q, show that PQ touches the ellipse.

Edit:

So I've found the equation of the tangent:
......(1)

And the equation of the normal:
......(2)

Substituting y=0 into (1), P is

Substituting x=0 into (2), Q is

Gradient of PQ =

Therefore, equation of PQ is:

And I have no idea what to do next...

Any help would be appreciated :)
Whenever it says to prove a line touches a curve it means prove it is a tangent and in general the easiest and most straight forward method
is to sub the straight line into the curve and form a quadratic and then show the discriminant equals 0 as this proves the line and curve only
intersect at one point (i.e. it is a tangent). You were lucky for this question that you could factorise easily and show there was only one root.
For future questions of this type showing discriminant = 0 is the way to go.
 

goobi

Member
Joined
Oct 6, 2010
Messages
196
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Whenever it says to prove a line touches a curve it means prove it is a tangent and in general the easiest and most straight forward method
is to sub the straight line into the curve and form a quadratic and then show the discriminant equals 0 as this proves the line and curve only
intersect at one point (i.e. it is a tangent). You were lucky for this question that you could factorise easily and show there was only one root.
For future questions of this type showing discriminant = 0 is the way to go.
I saw your post just now but thanks :)
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top