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A and B have (n+1) and n fair coins respectively and they toss their coins simultaneously.

a) Show that the probability that B gets r heads is given by:


b) Hence, find the probability that A will obtain k more heads than B, where:


c) Show that the probability that A will obtain more heads than B is:


Probability is arguably the hardest topic in 4 unit :( I really need the solution to this asap.
 

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Well this question is simple.
The answer is 1/2 For part c)
Very easy question for a 4uniter.
 

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Well a coin only has two probabilities thus the answer is 1/2
Even a student who didn't do maths know this.
Come on man.
 

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Well a coin only has two probabilities thus the answer is 1/2
Even a student who didn't do maths know this.
Come on man.
This is binomial probability, it involved more than only one trial...
and it says A have 1 more coin than B or whatever...
 
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dont you use the binomial expansions of the n+1 terms and the nth terms ?
 

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Well a coin only has two probabilities thus the answer is 1/2
Even a student who didn't do maths know this.
Come on man.
It isn't THAT obvious...



My solution:

a) comes straight from the definition of binomial probability.


For b), let X be the number of heads thrown by A and Y the number of heads thrown by B. Since the probability of any individual flip being heads is 1/2, the probability of A throwing k more heads than B is the same as the probability of A throwing k more heads than the number of tails B throws.

ie P(X-Y=k)=P(X-(n-Y)=k)=P(X+Y=n+k)

which is the just a way of writing "the probability of exactly n+k heads showing after 2n+1 flips".

So the answer to b), using binomial probability again, is:


For c), using the same trick as in b): P(X>Y)=P(X>(n-Y))=P(X+Y>n). But the complement of the event X+Y>n is the event "The total number of tails exceeds n", an event which is equally likely by symmetry. Hence P(X>Y)=1/2.
 
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If you find a maths question TOO EASY TO DO - Especially a harder 3u Question.

It means that you are doing it wrong T_T /
 

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It isn't THAT obvious...



My solution:

a) comes straight from the definition of binomial probability.


For b), let X be the number of heads thrown by A and Y the number of heads thrown by B. Since the probability of any individual flip being heads is 1/2, the probability of A throwing k more heads than B is the same as the probability of A throwing k more heads than the number of tails B throws.

ie P(X-Y=k)=P(X-(n-Y)=k)=P(X+Y=n+k)

which is the just a way of writing "the probability of exactly n+k heads showing after 2n+1 flips".

So the answer to b), using binomial probability again, is:


For c), using the same trick as in b): P(X>Y)=P(X>(n-Y))=P(X+Y>n). But the complement of the event X+Y>n is the event "The total number of tails exceeds n", an event which is equally likely by symmetry. Hence P(X>Y)=1/2.
Thanks a lot man.
 

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No, this question is from Sydney Grammar trials I think... I thought u were asking which year I'm in, in that case year 12, lol :) my bad.
 

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