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2013 Federal Election: 2PP Voting Intention

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It is not unions that are being militant its is big business that is being militant. Alan Joyce the CEO of Qantas has promised to sack his unionized workers and replace them with non unionized labour. Alan Joyce has said "he can't wait until the reintroduction of Work Choices and Australian Workplace Agreements under an Abbott government" to sack workers at will. Tony Abbott thinks he is going to win the next federal election let us the Australian Labor Party and the great and optimistic people of Australia prove him wrong. Tony Abbott is just plain pessimistic and toxic let us prove him wrong. Stop an Abbott government we must stop an Abbott government we will. I thank the nation.
YOU are toxic to this nation sathius. We cannot under any circumstance allow you to acquire ANY political power in this country. Deport you to another country, we must. Not that its necessary, australians are getting smarter and are realising the absolute stupidity and incompetence of the ALP. Sacking incompetent workers is good, work choices is the way to go, how would sathius feel if sathius had shitty employee who did fuck all and demanded 22 dollars an hour? Sathius not enjoy that. Sathius too stupid to realise how badly a lack of work choices affect the people of australia. Sathius will learn, the abbott government will teach him.
 

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It is not unions that are being militant its is big business that is being militant. Alan Joyce the CEO of Qantas has promised to sack his unionized workers and replace them with non unionized labour. Alan Joyce has said "he can't wait until the reintroduction of Work Choices and Australian Workplace Agreements under an Abbott government" to sack workers at will. Tony Abbott thinks he is going to win the next federal election let us the Australian Labor Party and the great and optimistic people of Australia prove him wrong. Tony Abbott is just plain pessimistic and toxic let us prove him wrong. Stop an Abbott government we must stop an Abbott government we will. I thank the nation.
Alan Joyce has nothing to do with Abbott.... He wants to sack baggage handlers who are paid more than teachers. God bless him. But that has no correlation with the Coalition.
 

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Alan Joyce is an unaustralian cunt. The longer he is CEO of Qantas, the faster it will fail.
 

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Alan Joyce is an unaustralian cunt. The longer he is CEO of Qantas, the faster it will fail.
Not his fault that Qantas is losing money on the international sector. Take a look at our wages then look at other leading airlines. We can't match wages with productivity. The airlines which are succeeding are the ones which are state backed or have cheap wages.
 

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I will tell you about Liberal workplace flexibility. Under Liberals its more easier to sack an employee. Under Liberals its more easier to cut the employee's pay and conditions. Under Liberals it means doing more work for less pay. Labor flexibility by contrast involves enterprise bargaining and increasing productivity coupled with increased pay and conditions for workers. Stop Work Choices we must. Stop Work Choices we will. I urge everyone on Bored of Studies to get involved in the campaign against Work Choices and to campaign at the next federal election for your local Labor Candidate. Fight for Your Rights at Work. Workers united will never be defeated.
 

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I will tell you about Liberal workplace flexibility. Under Liberals its more easier to sack an employee. Under Liberals its more easier to cut the employee's pay and conditions. Under Liberals it means doing more work for less pay. Labor flexibility by contrast involves enterprise bargaining and increasing productivity coupled with increased pay and conditions for workers. Stop Work Choices we must. Stop Work Choices we will. I urge everyone on Bored of Studies to get involved in the campaign against Work Choices and to campaign at the next federal election for your local Labor Candidate. Fight for Your Rights at Work. Workers united will never be defeated.
YES EXACTLY

IS THAT NOT FUCKING BRILLIANT?? the employee has no power! He cant be a non productive fucktard and then be a cheeky cunt to the employer and say "You still have to pay me dickhead, ur not allowed to sack me". And cutting the pay and conditions is PRECISELY the reason why employers are called employers, THEY have the power over you, not your unionist ass having power over them. Its fucking illogical and ridiculous, a cheeky shit can do anything and his employer NOT ALLOWED TO SACK THE FUCKER. This must be changed. Under liberals, you get what you work for, NOT more work for less pay. HArdworking people are rewarded, lazy people are kicked onto the streets.

Labour does NOT increase productivity. It increases LAZINESS and feelings of ENTITLEMENT. Its the worst possible thing you can imagine for an economy.

Sathius, I ask you the question, like you seem to keep asking everyone else, How would YOU feel if you had a bunch of unproductive employees who you COULD NOT sack and had to keep paying them because of the ridiculous amount of rights they have?

Exactly. You wouldnt feel very good. Your business would go down the drain, you'd go into poverty and live on the streets. Because of labour. Fucking labour. Then you will spend the rest of your life hating the bastards in the ALP and advocating Liberals as the one and only solution.

FIght for your rights at work? your only frickin right, is the right to do what you're told by the employer. My parents have a small business, and one bitch told them to their face "You cant get rid of me, you will have to keep paying me". They lost a LOT of money from that bloody bitch. Work choices prevents this from happening.
 

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I will tell you about Liberal workplace flexibility. Under Liberals its more easier to sack an employee. Under Liberals its more easier to cut the employee's pay and conditions. Under Liberals it means doing more work for less pay. Labor flexibility by contrast involves enterprise bargaining and increasing productivity coupled with increased pay and conditions for workers. Stop Work Choices we must. Stop Work Choices we will. I urge everyone on Bored of Studies to get involved in the campaign against Work Choices and to campaign at the next federal election for your local Labor Candidate. Fight for Your Rights at Work. Workers united will never be defeated.
That is where I think these IR laws are actually quite a good start.

Unions and businesses must have talks before strikes - I cant believe this doesn't happen anyway, its the cornerstone of enterprise bargaining
Increased penalties to dodgy union officials - Enough said. Im sure the HSU is happy
Restricting union official access to worksites - not sure I agree with this, as long as it doesn't interfere if a planned strike goes ahead after consultation between both the union and managers
 

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Because giving such enormous coercive powers to a non judicial body is bad enough in and of itself, but to give it to a body for, lets be honest, the sole purpose of fighting an ideological war with the unions is disgusting.
 

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YES EXACTLY

IS THAT NOT FUCKING BRILLIANT?? the employee has no power! He cant be a non productive fucktard and then be a cheeky cunt to the employer and say "You still have to pay me dickhead, ur not allowed to sack me". And cutting the pay and conditions is PRECISELY the reason why employers are called employers, THEY have the power over you, not your unionist ass having power over them. Its fucking illogical and ridiculous, a cheeky shit can do anything and his employer NOT ALLOWED TO SACK THE FUCKER. This must be changed. Under liberals, you get what you work for, NOT more work for less pay. HArdworking people are rewarded, lazy people are kicked onto the streets.

Labour does NOT increase productivity. It increases LAZINESS and feelings of ENTITLEMENT. Its the worst possible thing you can imagine for an economy.

Sathius, I ask you the question, like you seem to keep asking everyone else, How would YOU feel if you had a bunch of unproductive employees who you COULD NOT sack and had to keep paying them because of the ridiculous amount of rights they have?

Exactly. You wouldnt feel very good. Your business would go down the drain, you'd go into poverty and live on the streets. Because of labour. Fucking labour. Then you will spend the rest of your life hating the bastards in the ALP and advocating Liberals as the one and only solution.

FIght for your rights at work? your only frickin right, is the right to do what you're told by the employer. My parents have a small business, and one bitch told them to their face "You cant get rid of me, you will have to keep paying me". They lost a LOT of money from that bloody bitch. Work choices prevents this from happening.
Given your overall demenour I sense you'll be singing a different tune when you start to get fired from every job you try do
 

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Abbott will say anything, do anything to become PM. This recklessness includes the Abbott Opposition's Paid Parental Leave, which is costly, unsustainable and wrong as a matter of principle. When the Libs argue amongst themselves they call it democratic, when Labor does it they call them dysfunctional! What a joke Abbott is! If you can't run your party then there's no hope that Tony Abbott can run the country. Good riddance to Abbott.
 

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Abbott will say anything, do anything to become PM. This recklessness includes the Abbott Opposition's Paid Parental Leave, which is costly, unsustainable and wrong as a matter of principle. When the Libs argue amongst themselves they call it democratic, when Labor does it they call them dysfunctional! What a joke Abbott is! If you can't run your party then there's no hope that Tony Abbott can run the country. Good riddance to Abbott.
Costly, unsustainable and wrong in principle was used to describe the Pacific Solution and later quoted by Abbott for the Malaysian Solution. Anyhow I don't see how paid parental leave is wrong in principle when Labor already has it in place. All Abbott is doing is gold plating it and turning it from a welfare entitlement to a workplace entitlement. All the Scandinavian countries are doing it. I bet if Labor introduced this , the left will be singing a different tune. Economics of it is a different matter. Endless leadership tensions are a sign of a dysfunctional government. So by the same standard I can apply it to Gillard as well... So we have agreement then?
Good riddance to Gillard.
 

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Because giving such enormous coercive powers to a non judicial body is bad enough in and of itself, but to give it to a body for, lets be honest, the sole purpose of fighting an ideological war with the unions is disgusting.
All in the name of returning the pendulum to the sensible centre. Seems neither side both Labor and Liberal have found this yet.
 

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FOCUS ON JOBS AND GROWTH IN BUDGET: SWAN
Jobs and growth will be federal Treasurer Wayne Swan's mantra as he delivers his sixth, and possibly final, Labor budget ahead of the September 14 election.
Mr Swan will promise on Tuesday night that the budget will return to surplus within the next four years, on the back of new revenue measures and spending cuts, while providing for extra spending on schools and disability care programs.
"We have a bloody good story to tell about our economy's performance over the last five years, and this budget gives us a great chance to tell that story," Mr Swan told the Labor caucus at a meeting in Canberra on Monday.
"Make no mistake: this year's budget keeps our economy strong, makes the smart investments for our future and ensures every Australian gets a fair go."
The opposition says the forecasts in the budget papers won't be believable, given the treasurer's previous promises to get the books into the black and reluctance to trim "wasteful" public spending.
The mid-year economic review forecast a $1.1 billion surplus for 2012/13 and slightly larger surpluses for the following three years.
But economists are now forecasting a deficit of around $14 billion for 2012/13, followed by another deficit of about $10 billion in 2013/14.
"One of the problems the Labor party has had, it has always made big, bold, unqualified statements and then failed to deliver," shadow treasurer Joe Hockey said on Monday.
Treasury's predictions for employment, economic growth and the terms of trade are all expected to be downgraded.
The budget papers are also set to show at least $17 billion has been stripped from revenues since the 2012 budget, due to a higher dollar, lower commodity prices and other changes in the Australian economy.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard said it had been a difficult budget because of these circumstances.
Labor has already unveiled a raft of cuts and revenue measures, including the deferral of carbon-price related tax cuts and the dumping of a rise in the Family Tax Benefit A rate.
The budget papers will also show $580 million slashed from public sector spending, a hike in the Medicare levy to pay for disability insurance, superannuation changes for those on the top two per cent of incomes and $900 million in savings from universities.
Tax breaks and loopholes for large companies and multinationals will also be under scrutiny.
The treasurer will show how the government will fund an estimated $15 billion a year in extra spending, mainly on roads, schools and health.
Transport Minister Anthony Albanese said spending in his portfolio would amount to $269 for every Australian - including more than $3 billion extra for three key road projects in Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney.
With the Labor caucus up in arms over the low level of unemployment benefits, Employment Minister Bill Shorten revealed on Monday the budget would allow people on the payments to earn more before losing any of their benefit.
It will also put up an extra $300 million to make it easier for people to work or study while they are on income support payments.
"Government can't meet everyone's needs and expectations but this is a sensible step," Mr Shorten said.
Business groups want to see a clear path to a surplus and spending aimed at boosting productivity.
Mr Hockey said Australians wanted to see an "honest" budget, which restored business and consumer confidence.
 

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The Gillard govt finally is getting the message that voters are sending her, unlike Mr "Tin Ear and Tin Heart" Abbott. Charity begins at home. We have to look better after those Australians with a disability, those who are mentally ill, the unemployed and the homeless. Everyone in Australia understands that foreign aid is being wasted on corrupt governments around the world. We need to ensure that our foreign aid budget is sustainable moving forward into the future.
 
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Charity begins at home.
Abbott is more charitable than Gillard.

We have to look better after those Australians with a disability, those who are mentally ill, the unemployed and the homeless.
No, we need to bring in millions of foreigners who will be dependent upon the government!
 

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Abbott is not more charitable than Gillard. Abbott has promised to scrap the Start Up Scholarship for university students on income support. Abbott has promised to cut the pension and cut the Newstart Allowance. Abbott wants to balance the budget on the back of the most disadvantaged people in Australia. Abbott is cruel, inhumane and unfit to govern Australia. All Tony Abbott wants to do is cut taxes for the millionaires and let middle class Australians and those who come from a low SES background suffer. Stop an Abbott government we must. Stop an Abbott government we will. Vote Labor and the Greens and we will act in the national interest, rather than the self interest of the elites.
 

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I just read in SMH, two sri lankan asylum seekers have been charged with rape in paramatta. lol what do u know, SylviaB's predictions are accurate eh.
 

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