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Could someone please help me with this question...:)

Q. For what value of x does the functions have y = 1/4x -1 have y'= -4/49

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Differentiate to find y' and set that to equal -4/49 and solve for x. You should get two solutions of x.
 

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you should get x=2 and -3/2
 

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So y'= -4(4x + 1)^-2.... This right?
y'=-4(4x-1)^-2
and you are given y'=-4/49
So you can equate them -4/49=-4/(4x-1)^2
Which gives you (4x-1)^2=49 and then you just solve the quadratic
 

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y'=-4(4x-1)^-2
and you are given y'=-4/49
So you can equate them -4/49=-4/(4x-1)^2
Which gives you (4x-1)^2=49 and then you just solve the quadratic
Yes, I see. I had done +1 instead of -1, thanks for your continued help. :)

This is a different topic but....How do I do the below? I am sure there is a way that doesn't involve using a calculator. Am I right?

Simplify
a) tan 70(deg) + cot 20(deg) - 2tan70(deg)
b) cot25 + tan65 / cot25

Thanks. :)
 

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I got x = -2 and 3/2... from x= -1 + - root 49 / 4.... ==> x = -2, 3/2

This right or not? :)
uhm is your original equation y=1/(4x-1) or y=1(4x+1) :L

if its 1/(4x-1) you will get x= 2 and -3/2
if its 1/(4x+1) you will get x= -2 and 3/2
 

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uhm is your original equation y=1/(4x-1) or y=1(4x+1) :L

if its 1/(4x-1) you will get x= 2 and -3/2
if its 1/(4x+1) you will get x= -2 and 3/2
Thanks again... Yes I just realised that... Sorry... And then I posted at the same time as you.
 
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Yes, I see. I had done +1 instead of -1, thanks for your continued help. :)

This is a different topic but....How do I do the below? I am sure there is a way that doesn't involve using a calculator. Am I right?

Simplify
a) tan 70(deg) + cot 20(deg) - 2tan70(deg)
b) cot25 + tan65 / cot25

Thanks. :)
for a) cot(theta)=tan(90-theta)
therefore cot(20)=tan(70)
So tan(70)+tan(70)-2tan(70)=0

b) tan65/cot25=1 using cot(theta)=tan(90-theta)
so you end up with cot(25)+1 (is this the right answer? :L)
 

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for a) cot(theta)=tan(90-theta)
therefore cot(20)=tan(70)
So tan(70)+tan(70)-2tan(70)=0

b) tan65/cot25=1 using cot(theta)=tan(90-theta)
so you end up with cot(25)+1 (is this the right answer? :L)
Thanks... Unfortunately I don't have the answers... It's a question from a past paper. If I do it on the calculator I get two??? But not sure if this is right.... :)
 

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Thanks... Unfortunately I don't have the answers... It's a question from a past paper. If I do it on the calculator I get two??? But not sure if this is right.... :)
The answer for b) is correct, I was just asking because they maybe gave the answer in a different format
 

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Parvee (if you're still there)...

I think I have got it...

cot25 = tan65 (same reason as what you gave - Cot(theta) = tan(90 - theta)

So tan 65 + tan65/ cot 25

Then we can replace the bottom with tan65

So 2tan65/ tan65 = 2 (because the tan65) cancel out! :)
 

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Yeah ok then. Thanks for the consideration... Unfortunately I don't have the answers. :L
 

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Parvee (if you're still there)...

I think I have got it...

cot25 = tan65 (same reason as what you gave - Cot(theta) = tan(90 - theta)

So tan 65 + tan65/ cot 25

Then we can replace the bottom with tan65

So 2tan65/ tan65 = 2 (because the tan65) cancel out! :)
hmm not quite right
doing so you would get tan(65)+(tan(65)/tan(65))
which give tan(65)+1
 

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hmm not quite right
doing so you would get tan(65)+(tan(65)/tan(65))
which give tan(65)+1
oh, i'm not sure. I thought that if I just replaced both cot25 with tan65 (for the reason we both know they're the same) so it would be tan65 + tan65 / tan 65.
 

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